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12/13/2004 09:53:29 AM · #1 |
But I still can't figure out how to take pictures like on this site, where the background is completely black/white and the subject is coloured perfectly.
Please help :( |
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12/13/2004 09:59:31 AM · #2 |
Me neither - how about a tutorial for us non professionals ;)
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12/13/2004 09:59:59 AM · #3 |
you are talking about with indoor incandescent lights?
i set up a white piece of cardboard, under the lights i'll be using, take a picture of that. i set that as a custom white balance setting for the camera to use. then i'll rephoto the white card board to make sure the histogram graph is pushed way to the right side. and i adjust the exposure of what ever the item / person i am shooting according to how i interpret the histogram.
i have not been too fond of the cameras preset white balance settings when shooting indoors.
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12/13/2004 10:09:51 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by soup:
you are talking about with indoor incandescent lights?
i set up a white piece of cardboard, under the lights i'll be using, take a picture of that. i set that as a custom white balance setting for the camera to use. then i'll rephoto the white card board to make sure the histogram graph is pushed way to the right side. and i adjust the exposure of what ever the item / person i am shooting according to how i interpret the histogram.
i have not been too fond of the cameras preset white balance settings when shooting indoors. |
I was with you up to all this histogram malarchy. What histogram? Can one be viewed in the camera? I have custom white balance settings... |
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12/13/2004 10:11:31 AM · #5 |
Set the object up in front of the background. Light them with two lights - independently. :)
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12/13/2004 10:18:24 AM · #6 |
A histogram is a visual tool used to see where each pixel falls within an image from left-black to right-white. Some cameras have a built in histogram that can be displayed on the LCD screen, if not then some editing software has a histogram [i.e. Photoshop]. Here is a link to understanding histograms. Hope this helps.
Scott W.
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12/13/2004 10:19:56 AM · #7 |
The rebel can't set the custom white point, can it?
Just wondering... |
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12/13/2004 10:22:46 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
The rebel can't set the custom white point, can it?
Just wondering... |
According to DPReview the Canon EOS-300 has 6 positions & manual preset white balance.
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12/13/2004 10:24:21 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by SDW65:
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
The rebel can't set the custom white point, can it?
Just wondering... |
According to DPReview the Canon EOS-300 has 6 positions & manual preset white balance. |
Sure, you can change the white balance settings but can you use soup's method to set the white point on the rebel?
Or am I missing something here? |
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12/13/2004 10:31:15 AM · #10 |
What does the owners manual say?
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12/13/2004 10:31:36 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by Rankles:
Originally posted by soup:
you are talking about with indoor incandescent lights?
i set up a white piece of cardboard, under the lights i'll be using, take a picture of that. i set that as a custom white balance setting for the camera to use. then i'll rephoto the white card board to make sure the histogram graph is pushed way to the right side. and i adjust the exposure of what ever the item / person i am shooting according to how i interpret the histogram.
i have not been too fond of the cameras preset white balance settings when shooting indoors. |
I was with you up to all this histogram malarchy. What histogram? Can one be viewed in the camera? I have custom white balance settings... |
Check your manual for theexact detials, but if it is like my 602, there is an INfo button (or F button ) on the left side of the camera near the strap connection. When reviewing a pic on hte lcd screen push and hold this button. the Histogram will come up.
Now then, to read and use this info, read this.
In PS you can see the h'gram in the LEVELS window/control |
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12/13/2004 10:34:26 AM · #12 |
One of the articles on //www.istockphoto.com is about setting up a studio for creating isolated shots. It's very good, read it at //www.istockphoto.com/article_view.php?ID=14.
Message edited by author 2004-12-13 10:35:06. |
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12/13/2004 11:01:35 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
The rebel can't set the custom white point, can it? |
It takes a couple of steps, but it's pretty easy. Point your camera at something that should be white or neutral gray and take a picture. Now hit the menu button and select Custom White Balance. The picture you just took will be displayed (just hit the Set button). Tap the shutter button to get back to shooting mode and use the WB button on the back of your camera to select the Custom White Balance you just set (it's the last icon). That's it.
EDIT- Although I had read how to do it, I never actually set a custom white balance on the Rebel until this past Saturday at the Bronx Zoo. The camels were indoors under some impossibly yellow light, and the incandescent white balance was little help. It took me 5 seconds to figure out the Custom setting, and the difference was incredible. Every Rebel owner should try it at least once.
Message edited by author 2004-12-13 11:12:54. |
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12/13/2004 11:05:56 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
The rebel can't set the custom white point, can it? |
It takes a couple of steps, but it's pretty easy. Point your camera at something that should be white or neutral gray and take a picture. Now hit the menu button and select Custom White Balance. The picture you just took will be displayed (just hit the Set button). Tap the shutter button to get back to shooting mode and use the WB button on the back of your camera to select the Custom White Balance you just set (it's the last icon). That's it. |
Awesome! Okay, maybe I should read my manual...that's really helpful...thanks!
Message edited by author 2004-12-13 11:06:23. |
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12/13/2004 11:16:27 AM · #15 |
thank you. this is very helpful
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12/13/2004 11:26:52 AM · #16 |
That's great! But right now I need black background, any ideas? |
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12/13/2004 11:30:33 AM · #17 |
Both used the inside of a black t-shirt.
For my current Broken entry I went to walmart and bought a black full size top sheet for $6. Light it so that the light does not fall directly on it or expose a bit dark and it works. |
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12/13/2004 10:36:11 PM · #18 |
Rankles. If I wanted to leave a subject in color and the background B&W I would take a color photo and edit the background.
Example from fire red mustang:
(I really like this one)
Message edited by author 2004-12-13 22:39:47. |
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12/13/2004 10:57:52 PM · #19 |
you can't 'set the white point' unless you are careful with the custom white balance photo, and your exposure of the subeject... and then test it.
but i have found using a custom setting far superior to any of the presets.
Message edited by author 2004-12-13 22:58:11.
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12/13/2004 11:07:47 PM · #20 |
Try a still shot of an object.
Black background
Camera on tripod, set focus, then turn out the lights.
Open shutter...10-15seconds
Light your subject with a flashlight.
Move the light around on your subject...experiment.
Voila!
perfect black background.
Several of my shots were done this way.
Time Flies By
Autumn
Multiple sources of light (used coloured flashes)
He Loves Me!!
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12/13/2004 11:21:13 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by Rankles:
But I still can't figure out how to take pictures like on this site, where the background is completely black/white and the subject is coloured perfectly.
Please help :( |
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see if this helps to get started. //www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=130510 |
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12/13/2004 11:45:39 PM · #22 |
Here is another thread where we were also just discussing similar issues...
Dave
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12/13/2004 11:52:21 PM · #23 |
thanks for the info. I t was wondering....
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12/13/2004 11:55:45 PM · #24 |
Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but I just positioned a black shirt hanging on the microwave next to the sink, positioned the camera on a book on the other side, shined a 50 watt light off a paper towel on the wall to light the toothbrush, and I used a shutter speed that was too fast for the conditions to only expose the brush and not the shirt behind it.
Then I cropped and adjusted curves in photoshop, sharpened the lightness channel and whoola. It's nothing great, I know, but I was trying copy something for the deja vu challenge then I gave up..hope that helps some.
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12/14/2004 12:06:15 AM · #25 |
here is a simple one. A blue plastic shopping bag cut open and placed with water on sink. Two 150 watt bulbs.
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