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12/06/2004 04:05:34 AM · #1 |
Being bored to death here, I was reading a really interesting piece by Michael Reichmann on Learning to see. Have a look, it`s worth reading and thinking about...
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12/06/2004 06:47:36 AM · #2 |
| thanks for sharing, nice article. again i realize i have so much to learn... i even have to learn te see! |
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12/06/2004 10:04:36 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by doctornick:
Being bored to death here, I was reading a really interesting piece by Michael Reichmann on Learning to see. Have a look, it`s worth reading and thinking about... |
Great article and definitely a topic worth discussing.
I have loved photography since finding a 60's era life magazine in my grandmothers basement at the age of 10, but I have never been a good photographer. I can handle the technology with no problem, but photographic vision is something that I have lacked. For the last couple months I have avoided technical discussions completely and started to focus on learning to see, but it has not been easy. So, sticking with your subject, I thought I would list some inhibitors to seeing that I have encountered:
- Rushing photographic efforts because you don't want to waste the time of the people you are photographing or the people you might be with when a situation calls out to you.
- Belief that you won't be able to improve until you have a new camera or a specific lens
- The belief that every shot has be great
- The believe that "real" photographers are naturals and producing amazing results starting with the first roll of film they ever shot.
- Fear of experimenting because others might see the experiment and assume that this is the best you can do, or , worse yet, they might trash something that you find meaningful
- Always taking the safe shot and never taking a chance on something more interesting
- Losing faith because the general public (friends and family) doesn't understand what you are trying to do
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12/06/2004 02:03:50 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by doctornick:
Have a look, it`s worth reading and thinking about... |
Thank you for this hint. I've been thinking on exactly those lines in the past few weeks. What is my "style" or my "vision"?
I'm, however, a bit sceptical about studying other peoples work too much, because you than start to emulate them and that could cramp your own personal style. But of course you have to find inspriation somewhere and trying to re-do something can increase your skill (but I think more technical kinds of skills than artistic).
Edit #1
one of the photog I admire the most is Josef Sudek (sometimes Jozef). I still haven't been able to find (online) my fav photo, but some others are here:
Josef Sudek by Charles Sawyer
Some good links to Italian site on page
some photos
more photos
edit #2
and another czech photog often amuses me, Jan Saudek
Chech out his 2 Big 4 U (1981) in his 1981-1985 gallery and Walkman (1985) in that same gallery
Message edited by author 2004-12-06 14:32:26.
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12/06/2004 03:03:56 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Gauti:
Originally posted by doctornick:
Have a look, it`s worth reading and thinking about... |
Thank you for this hint. I've been thinking on exactly those lines in the past few weeks. What is my "style" or my "vision"?
I'm, however, a bit sceptical about studying other peoples work too much, because you than start to emulate them and that could cramp your own personal style. ...snip... |
@doctornick: Thanks for the link, I found the article interesting.
@Gauti: I tend to disagree with you about emulation, and cramping your own style. I have found it extremely enlightening, and helpful to examine other people's work.
I think that when you spend time looking at other's work, you begin to see that a particular subject or style evokes very strong emotional responses in you, and it can enable you to narrow your focus a little, and as a result, develop a real passion for your photography.
As with any form of art, there are myriad ways to express yourself, but when you find the one that seems to flow effortlessly from you, (or your camera!), it becomes absolute joy to capture that expression, and stops being an exercise in simply capturing images and hoping some will be good.
This is also one of the things that I find somewhat frustrating about DPC. It seems to be a very literal crowd; they leave little room for "vision", or artistic expression, and that is sad, because they miss a lot of wonderful opportunities to enjoy images that may not be technically perfect, but are nevertheless visually wonderful.
Linda
Message edited by author 2004-12-09 17:11:52. |
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12/06/2004 03:27:28 PM · #6 |
drnick,
Thanks for the link. The article was not great. . . it was fantastc. It confirmed my practice of firing away with the menue set to automatic. As for the equipment aspect: I have a Minolta DiMage7 and a Canon 10D (currently my weapon of choice). However, on a recent trip I used my wife's Canon elph. So far my best ratings and evaluations, the best comments about composition and relation to the theme, have come from this camera AND there was very little post production done.
It was nice to see a thread that focused on vision alone. Again, Thanks |
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12/06/2004 03:32:49 PM · #7 |
| Nusbaum, With your itimized points you were talking about me!!! |
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12/06/2004 04:02:04 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by drydoc:
drnick,
Thanks for the link. The article was not great. . . it was fantastc. It confirmed my practice of firing away with the menue set to automatic. As for the equipment aspect: I have a Minolta DiMage7 and a Canon 10D (currently my weapon of choice). However, on a recent trip I used my wife's Canon elph. So far my best ratings and evaluations, the best comments about composition and relation to the theme, have come from this camera AND there was very little post production done.
It was nice to see a thread that focused on vision alone. Again, Thanks |
My weapon of choice is also the 10D, but I just went out and purchased a little Oregon Scientific DS6639 ($69 at Ritz) as an excersize in the creative aspects of photography rather than the technical aspects. Given the limitations of the camera, the only way to create a compelling result will be through creative photography, a place where I have always been challenged. The thought came to me when reading this suggestion for a bare bones equipment challenge that would focus on creative composition rather than technical excellence.
Message edited by author 2004-12-09 17:58:42.
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12/09/2004 02:31:31 PM · #9 |
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12/09/2004 05:39:57 PM · #10 |
I think I'm the other way around...I need to develop some technique and knowledge about all the technology involved rather than work on finding my vision...everywhere I go I see things that I want to photograph...I mentally crop and frame things when I see them, I'll crawl around on the ground trying to look at things with an interesting angle even when I don't have a camera to take the photo with. Then my photos come out ugly because I don't know how to mess with the settings well enough to get a clear shot XP
I'm like this with everything I do...music, art, writing...photography. I don't know why what I do works, and it doesn't work a lot of the time because of that, but when I can get across what I see/hear in my head, it comes out pretty nice :D |
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