New back-up camera suggestions - DPChallenge Forums

12/03/2004 05:42:47 AM · #1

As you can see I have the D70 as my main camera and I was going to buy a Fujifilm S1pro as a back-up, that is until i borrowed a friends Nikon 5700 coolpix for a few moments to play with but alas the battery went flat as i was shooting with it so I was wondering about how this camera would do as a back up for my D70. I saw one today at a camera shop for 35,000 yen ($325) is this a good deal? It is in MINT condition boxed, full software inc and a small 64mb card was included too. I have not had the chance to see the cameras results and i fear that if I want the 5700 I will have to buy it soon as things go fast around here at any price.. any advice greatly appreciated.. thank you all.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

12/03/2004 08:42:09 AM · #2

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scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

12/03/2004 08:56:06 AM · #3

This should answer your questions.

hyperfocal

Nikon D7000

Nikon MF 105mm f/2.5 AIS

12/03/2004 09:57:18 AM · #4

I would look at the new 8mp 8400. It is compatable with the D70 iTTL flash system, and best of all it has a true wide-angle 84 degree coverage (wider than the 18-70 kit lens if you have that).

jxpfeer

Nikon D70

12/03/2004 10:17:13 AM · #5

i think it'd make a fine backup to your d70, but depending on what you need it for. do you need it as a backup for personal use, or do you mean for paid shooting assignments? if you're talking about the paid scenario, then i'd have to say that it's probably better to stick with another dSLR body... but if it's just a backup for personal use, or something like that, then i think it'd be just great.

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 35-135mm f/3.5-4.5

12/03/2004 10:28:04 AM · #6

Originally posted by jxpfeer:

if you're talking about the paid scenario, then i'd have to say that it's probably better to stick with another dSLR body...

That's what I was going to say.

I'm in the position of desperately needing a back-up SLR body and I don't have a clue about film cameras so I'm stuck dishing out a fortune (eventually for a back-up digital slr).

For Nikon, a good slr back-up might be the D100 if it's still made????
(sorry, not entirely familiar with NIkon products).

C_Steve_G

Apple iPhone 12

12/03/2004 10:29:54 AM · #7

I was able to use one for a while, and while I really liked the results, the two things I disliked were: 1) control locations, and 2) it's very difficult to get a good panning technique with the electronic viewfinder.

jxpfeer

Nikon D70

12/03/2004 10:30:36 AM · #8

the d100 is definitely a good backup :) the s1pro is coming way down in price now, and is still a good backup. just about any body that'll support your lenses would be a good backup. you can go get another d70 body pretty soon, as there is now the 100 dollar rebate, and some online shops are selling 'em prety cheap.

Spork99

OM System OM-1

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

12/03/2004 10:49:06 AM · #9

If you are getting paid, you definitely don't want the 5700, you really need another SLR, digital or otherwise.

If it's just for you, it should be OK, but when I was looking a prosumer cams, I found the 5700's menus and controls awkward. Make sure it's workable for you.

12/03/2004 10:59:43 AM · #10

Thank you people for the usefull comments. 2 reasons for thinking about the 5700..
1. I am soooo poor it aint funny
2. It will only be for bumming around with, a kind of 'take it anywhere' camera, I am not always in a position to take the D70 out with me. I am only an amature and if i get a job i will just take the one digital and also my old F2 film camera(just for looks, Ill shoot in digital cos its cheaper to process).

thanks again for the pointers I think i will buy it cos it will be replacing my SONY F505 as a back up.

sorry if i never made this clear before.

hyperfocal

Nikon D7000

Nikon MF 105mm f/2.5 AIS

12/03/2004 11:03:01 AM · #11

I wouldn't consider the D100 a backup to the D70, I would consider the D70 a backup for the D100. Plus the D100s are still going for a couple hundred dollars more than the D70. Also, here in the USA, the D70 is going for $900 after rebate. How about a D70 as a backup for the D70.

BTW the S1pro produces fine enough images, but the two different battery issue is a major pain in the butt.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

12/03/2004 11:05:26 AM · #12

What are Digital Rebel bodies going for these days?

Canon EOS-20D

12/03/2004 11:41:30 AM · #13

(Aside to alionic: I added the Sanyo Xacti to the list of cameras so you can add that if you like.)

Plexxoid

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

12/03/2004 11:45:43 AM · #14

Originally posted by GoldBerry:

What are Digital Rebel bodies going for these days?

About $800 with lens. About $740 without. (IMO the lens is worth a lot more than $60)

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

12/03/2004 12:02:12 PM · #15

Originally posted by GoldBerry:

What are Digital Rebel bodies going for these days?

$668 @ ibuydigital.com (9+ at resellerratings.com) AND up to $300 rebate with purchase of certain lenses. Kinda silly to buy any point and shoot model at that price.

jimmythefish

Canon EOS-10D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

12/03/2004 02:00:20 PM · #16

I'm considering a film back. The logic behind this is that it would offer different possiilities, including usage of different films and wider effective focal lengths.

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

12/03/2004 02:12:08 PM · #17

Originally posted by jimmythefish:

I'm considering a film back. The logic behind this is that it would offer different possiilities, including usage of different films and wider effective focal lengths.

I'd love to get a film body...unfortunately I don't have the technical know-how to use film. It'd be way cheaper though, and I wouldn't be torturing my bank for more money like I am right now. (or at least, not as much).

jimmythefish

Canon EOS-10D

12/03/2004 02:22:06 PM · #18

Ummm...what do you need to know that you don't already? I have a pretty good idea myself of exposure by now, after running more than 10,000 shots through my 10D, and the 10D sensor is much less forgiving than negative film - even moreseo if you're shooting jpeg. It's more like slide film on an exposure latitude basis.

If you're the type of photographer who relies on the LCD and histogram report and chimps repeatedly to know if they exposed correctly, well there's something wrong with your digital technique too.

You should already have the skills to deal with film.

Originally posted by GoldBerry:

Plexxoid

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

12/03/2004 02:32:48 PM · #19

Originally posted by GoldBerry:

It'd be way cheaper though

How is it cheaper? The only thing cheaper about film is the film-body. In digital, you can use a $70 1 gig card over and over (and store over 300 photos at a time on it, and you can order prints at Winkflash.com for 16 cents apeice. But with film, you have to buy rolls of film and pay to have them processed, which can add up quickly. What's cheaper?

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jimmythefish

Canon EOS-10D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

12/03/2004 02:38:51 PM · #20

If you're just using the film back as a backup, and never plan to use it much (or hopefully at all) then it's cheaper.

Plexxoid

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

12/03/2004 03:25:07 PM · #21

Ahh, yes, as a back-up camera. Almost forgot the topic of this thread.
Yes, if it accepts all the same accessories and lenses, go for a film body for backup. Not only will it take fine pictures, it will not go out of date, as film-tech has pretty much stopped.

12/03/2004 03:42:06 PM · #22

Originally posted by jimmythefish:

...chimps repeatedly to know if they exposed correctly, well there's something wrong with your digital technique too.

Isn't that what I sort of said? LOL I do use the LCD to correct exposure. I've learned quite a bit in my lighting class, and am better, but in a pinch to have to rely on a film body isn't on par with my abilities at this point and time. I can admit it.

To answer your accusation/question (lol) yea, I'm that "type" of photographer. Let the stoning commence!

Everyone has to start somewhere.

Message edited by author 2004-12-03 15:44:23.