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 11/25/2004 08:28:48 PM · #76
I'd like to see minor challenges introduced within each challenge.

Maybe this could be compared to Sailing, where the ribbons are the same as line honours but there are also places for each class of boat. The class could be, by camera or type of camera eg: pro dslr (8mp+), dslr (6-8mp), prosumer , compact or by Average vote recieved over the past 20 challenges entered.

Something like that anyway, I just like to see people who would realisticly not have a chance at the overall recieve some kind of encouragement as they learn.
 11/26/2004 01:14:32 AM · #77
Originally posted by Gurilla:
I'd like to see minor challenges introduced within each challenge.

Maybe this could be compared to Sailing, where the ribbons are the same as line honours but there are also places for each class of boat. The class could be, by camera or type of camera eg: pro dslr (8mp+), dslr (6-8mp), prosumer , compact or by Average vote recieved over the past 20 challenges entered.

Something like that anyway, I just like to see people who would realisticly not have a chance at the overall recieve some kind of encouragement as they learn.

Seeing per challenge rankings based on other criteria than total points is a great idea, but I think the emphasis needs to stay away from hardware -- the hardware does not make the image; the photographer does.

David

Message edited by author 2004-11-26 01:17:13.
 11/26/2004 01:23:00 AM · #78
Originally posted by Britannica:
Seeing per challenge rankings based on other criteria than total points is a great idea, but I think the emphasis needs to stay away from hardware -- the hardware does not make the image; the photographer does.

David


ITS Not whats between your hands its whats between your ears...(my2¢)

_brando_
 11/26/2004 01:29:38 AM · #79
Originally posted by fotodude:
Originally posted by Britannica:
Seeing per challenge rankings based on other criteria than total points is a great idea, but I think the emphasis needs to stay away from hardware -- the hardware does not make the image; the photographer does.

David


ITS Not whats between your hands its whats between your ears...(my2¢)

_brando_


Agreed, thats why I also put [quote]or by Average vote recieved over the past 20 challenges entered[/quote]
Its only an idea that need some input.
 11/26/2004 01:42:56 AM · #80
Umm... sorry to disagree, but there are LOADS of things I cannot do my with my point & shoot that a DSLR can. Long exposures, adaptive lenses, hell, even aperture control. I have about zero manual control, and that is VERY limiting in terms of technical ability. Sure, compositionally there aren't many differences (of course, excepting lens us) but depth-of-field, soft focus, focal length compression... Not gonna happen 'till I upgrade (which, hopefully, will be soon). I think that is a difference that should be recognized.
 11/26/2004 02:42:13 AM · #81
On the subject of breaking down challenges I think it is an ok idea but how we implement it is another story.
How about having 5 challenges a week?
Beginner̢۪s Challenge
Amateur Challenge
Novice Challenge
Members Challenge
Professional Challenge

Beginners Challenge:
1. Basic Editing Rules
2. Can not have participated in more than 5 challenges
3. This challenge is for beginners only [registered users or members]
4. Participants are not allowed to vote on this challenge

Amateur Challenge
1. Basic Editing rules
2. Must have participated in 5 or more challenges
3. Challenge is open to registered users or members with an average vote received < 5.000
4. Participants and all users are allowed to vote

Novice Challenge
1. Advanced editing rules
2. Must have participated in 5 or more challenges
3. Challenge is open to registered users or members with an average vote received > 5.000 with no ribbons won.
4. Participants and all users are allowed to vote

Members Challenge
1. Advance editing rules
2. Must have participated in more than 5 challenges
3. Challenge open to all members
4. Participants and Members are allowed to vote.

Professional Challenge
1. Advanced editing rules
2. Must have participated in 5 or more challenges
3. Challenge is open to registered users or members with an average vote received > 5.000 and at least 1 ribbon.
4. Participants and Members are allowed to vote

I understand that 5 challenges would be a lot. But the way it is designed you could only enter a maximum of 2 challenges and beginners and registered users could only enter 1 challenge. I also believe it may offers a benefit for registered users to become members and at the same time it may reduce the 600+ entries we have been seeing recently in a single challenge.

Message edited by author 2004-11-27 08:07:16.
 11/26/2004 05:12:26 AM · #82
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
2. PMs on the web site. It makes little sense to me to see PMs in the email box, i use email for different things. And surely makes replying hard. A much more logical solution would be to have a message exchange page on the website itself.


The PMs issue has been a big annoyance to me, I only actively participate in one other forum and they have the in-site PM feature. It is MUCH better. No having to much around in my e-mail to find it and then go through the steps to reply...I just want to be able to be notified and reply all in one place.

In fact, I rather enjoy the "User CP" (or User Control Panel) that that site has. It allows me to keep track of almost all of the things I'm doing on that site and soon the webmaster will be integrating it with the Photos section so that we can control that stuff there too. Right now I can work with: forum posts/threads I'm subscribed to, private messages, edit my profile, edit my options, avatar, signature, ect.

Basically everything having to do with my account (except for the photos section currently) is controlled in that one area and it makes it extremely nice to browse the site, whereas here it's kind of a free for all on whether or not I'll know that a thread has been updated or if I've gotten a PM (until I check my e-mail).

Example of what I mean (the red lines and such are from when I posted in another thread on here):


Message edited by author 2004-11-26 05:14:31.
 11/26/2004 08:22:53 AM · #83
How about forced comments when people vote 1/2 or 9/10 on photographs?
 11/26/2004 08:50:56 AM · #84
Originally posted by Rankles:
How about forced comments when people vote 1/2 or 9/10 on photographs?


This seems like a great idea at first glance. It's very frustrating getting 2's and 3's, and no one tells you why. But the problem with it is that some people just don't like to give comments, or they are uncomfortable giving them. So, if there was a photo they would score a 10, to avoid having to give a comment, they might give it an 8 instead. Or they would just say, "Nice photo." Which doesn't really help. Or maybe they wouldn't vote at all. Same for low scores, 3 instead of 1 or 2 (this one is more likely to happen). It would skew the results, and we would probably start seeing a lot more middle of the road scores.

Message edited by author 2004-11-26 08:56:27.
 11/26/2004 08:51:11 AM · #85
I really like SDW65's suggestion, except for the average of 5.0 overall for the novice category. Because of my first entry - a 3.8 average it could be a hundred years before I bring my overall average to 5.0. How about an average of 5.0 on one submission before one could move to the novice challenge.

What works really well about SDW65's suggestions is that it would have given me a chance to get my feet wet and get a feel for voting and the slant of this site regarding technical, artistic, creative (risk-taking maybe) ratings. By that I mean what does the general population on this site usually tend to like or dislike. For example: is the milieu more traditional and sentimental or is it edgy and artistic.

Also, I made an unintentional major faux pas by making reference to a comment given to one of my entries in a forum. The moderators of the forum were kind enough to simply edit it out rather than kick me out of the competition, which by rights they could have done. As a beginner, I appreciate the support, patience and advice that the users here are willing to give. The P.M.s helped to make this a place of connecting with humans.

Seriously, kudos to all of you who are so willing to take the extra time to make this site work so well. I know how much work I have caused for others in my learning process of the site. Maybe if we (the newbies) were separated out for a while, it would be easier for everyone.
11/26/2004 10:50:28 PM · #86
DID I MENTION I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TURN OFF THE INDIVIDUAL PICTURE FORUM?

People - GO TO PHOTOCRITIQUE.NET Jeez.

M
 11/27/2004 12:18:11 AM · #87
Originally posted by kdolso:
I really like SDW65's suggestion, except for the average of 5.0 overall for the novice category. Because of my first entry - a 3.8 average it could be a hundred years before I bring my overall average to 5.0. How about an average of 5.0 on one submission before one could move to the novice challenge.


The reason I set a 5.000 average level between amateur and novice is because if someone could just jump from amateur and novice and back then it corrupts the challenges. Example is if someone has a >5.000 average and has won a ribbon he/she can̢۪t give the ribbon back and go back down to the novice level.
What I really like about this setup is the beginner level. It gives everyone that joins DPChallenge [registered user or member] a chance to get his or her feet wet. They don̢۪t get to vote on the challenge allowing others that have been around a while to vote and comment. It will help lead them in a good direction based on votes received and comments from experienced users.
Another thing I like about this setup is even though there are 5 challenges the most anyone can participate in is 2. I think it will divided the entries [submissions] around which will possibly avoid 600+ entries in one single challenge.
And finally it gives everyone something to reach for.
1. The beginners level gives you up to 5 challenges to learn from comments received and it gets your ready to jump to the amateur or novice level based upon your average vote received after you have participated in 5 challenges.
2. At the amateur level you strive to get to the novice level
3. At the novice level you strive to get to the profession level
4. And there is a member̢۪s only challenge so anyone that is a member can participate in 2 challenges if they wish. I believe this may increase membership because registered users are only able to enter 1 challenge at a time [same as now].

Message edited by author 2004-11-27 02:46:51.
 11/28/2004 09:33:01 AM · #88
Okay, I get it. This all makes sense and seems very well thought out. One of the best things about this site is how everyone contributes and is valued. Something that is very rare. Some of the ideas I had at first would mess that up, and so I have decided to sit back and do a lot more listening and not so much chatting in the forums.

Again, you make some interesting suggestions.
 11/28/2004 09:48:47 AM · #89
Originally posted by kdolso:
Okay, I get it. This all makes sense and seems very well thought out. One of the best things about this site is how everyone contributes and is valued. Something that is very rare. Some of the ideas I had at first would mess that up, and so I have decided to sit back and do a lot more listening and not so much chatting in the forums.

Again, you make some interesting suggestions.


Please don’t do that! ALL input by every user is welcome here at DPChallenge. I was just explaining. You brought up a good point and it made me think and re-evaluate a few thing about my post that’s why you see ‘edited’ on my post.
Please keep posting, your input and comments are welcome and meaningful.
Scott W.

11/28/2004 10:09:09 AM · #90
At the risk of losing a little viewing space, I'd like to see the drop-down menu remain visible while scrolling.
 12/01/2004 11:59:02 AM · #91
My suggestion is to have fields for the lens used. This would make shopping for lenses easier. We can look at the picture and say THAT IS THE LENS I WANT! :)
 12/02/2004 02:33:27 PM · #92
I'd like to recieve some sort of email/flashing icon when you have new comments. Unless a picture is in a current challenge it's impossible to know when people have commented.
 12/03/2004 01:52:18 PM · #93
I have a huge suggestion:

When you upload a photo for print on DPCprints, it would be great to be able to upload different aspect ratios to that one portfolio file rather than uploading an exact copy of that portfolio file to DPChallenge first. Currently, it looks like my portfolio has 3 of the same images in it (which it does) since I had to upload different aspect ratio prints for sale. It should also show up as ONE image in DPCprints too, with the choices available below (as you currently see it), but the preview of the image will change based on the crop for the new aspect ratio size they chose. Like shutterfly does. Does this make sense?
 12/03/2004 01:56:32 PM · #94
Originally posted by mirdonamy:
I have a huge suggestion:

When you upload a photo for print on DPCprints, it would be great to be able to upload different aspect ratios to that one portfolio file rather than uploading an exact copy of that portfolio file to DPChallenge first.


Looks like that's coming...
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