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11/25/2004 04:20:12 AM · #26 |
would haveta keep in mind about the grid that not every photo is the same size and to work out the change for the technicalities of adjustments could prove a tad difficult
i think its a gr8 idea overall and would really like to see it working if possible |
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11/25/2004 05:07:53 AM · #27 |
A grid is a very workable addition to the commenting, but I would prefer it added as a rollover activated addition (or button activated) rather than letters and numbers creating a border that is nearly certain to detract from nearly all images. Additionally, the number of boxes the image is divided into is of concern -- different images have different granularity of detail. Perhaps an option for 'fine', 'medium' or 'coarse' would work well. In any event, the boxes will need to be based on a percentage of the overall image size, not a set size (@Tatjana).
Originally posted by Konador:
What would you like to draw on rather than arrows to point out certain areas or crops? |
Diagonals and leading lines, particularly how I would suggest they be altered in an image. But I think it would be most useful to be able to indicate the flow of attention as it passes over the image. I would like to be able to indicate where my attention is first captured, and then show the path my attention takes as the compositional elements lead it around the image, and indicate how I feel the control of this flow can be enchanced. Here is a forum thread in which menardmam has asked for critiques of an image. I discussed (at some length) several things, but mainly the flow of attention and how it was not being managed as well as it could have been. Reading back over it, I am glad he found my comments helpful (PMed me his thanks), as I had torn the image apart by the time I was done. Read through the post I left, and see if you think there are ways drawing on the image would have helped -- I think it would have made the post much shorter while still containing the same information.
Being able to choose different colors, and even layers, would be great at times -- but over-kill most others. But I suppose that is pushing it a bit far.
David
Message edited by author 2004-11-25 05:12:17.
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11/25/2004 06:04:33 AM · #28 |
A grid overlay can be done fairly easily on the fly using relatively positioned block elements (empty divs with borders). Subtle differences in browser CSS support means you don't get a pixel-perfect grid, but for these purposes it needn't be to-the-pixel accurate.
Similarly, a collection of available objects (left arrow, right arrow, etc.) as gifs (with transparency) can be also overlayed on the image and scaled as needed. |
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11/25/2004 06:15:49 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by dwoolridge:
A grid overlay can be done fairly easily on the fly using relatively positioned block elements (empty divs with borders). Subtle differences in browser CSS support means you don't get a pixel-perfect grid, but for these purposes it needn't be to-the-pixel accurate.
Similarly, a collection of available objects (left arrow, right arrow, etc.) as gifs (with transparency) can be also overlayed on the image and scaled as needed. |
I think this sounds like agreat idea. I paricularly like the grid idea.
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11/25/2004 09:47:24 AM · #30 |
| I don't know -- I don't necessarily agree with the idea. Seems a bit confusing. If you tell someone the sky is blown out, chances are they'll see it. And if you tell someone they needed a tighter crop, they can use their imagination. |
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11/25/2004 10:04:41 AM · #31 |
| I think it's a good idea because not everyone will use it. Only people with specific comments about specific parts of the picture will employ it. If it's a sky issue or an overall exposure issue, you just say that instead. |
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11/25/2004 10:40:55 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by hyphaefungi:
I think it's a good idea because not everyone will use it. Only people with specific comments about specific parts of the picture will employ it. If it's a sky issue or an overall exposure issue, you just say that instead. |
Yep, exactly. In many cases it wouldn't be needed, but it makes precise detailed comments in some cases much easier, and may encourage more people to leave them.
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11/25/2004 10:59:26 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by Britannica:
A grid is a very workable addition to the commenting, but I would prefer it added as a rollover activated addition (or button activated) rather than letters and numbers creating a border. |
I agree, this would definitely be the way to go. As for the dimensions of the grid, the units should probably be (length of x axis)/10 and (length of y axis)/10, making rectangle co-ordinates, rather than squares - should be fairly simple to calculate, given the image dimensions...
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11/25/2004 06:53:38 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Manic:
Originally posted by Britannica:
A grid is a very workable addition to the commenting, but I would prefer it added as a rollover activated addition (or button activated) rather than letters and numbers creating a border. |
I agree, this would definitely be the way to go. As for the dimensions of the grid, the units should probably be (length of x axis)/10 and (length of y axis)/10, making rectangle co-ordinates, rather than squares - should be fairly simple to calculate, given the image dimensions... |
I would actually like the division number to be a Fibonacci number, 8 or 13 would be good. It would be easier to indicate the Golden Mean (Rule of Thirds origination) with these than with 10 divisions.
David
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11/25/2004 07:12:50 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by Britannica:
I would actually like the division number to be a Fibonacci number, 8 or 13 would be good. It would be easier to indicate the Golden Mean (Rule of Thirds origination) with these than with 10 divisions.
David |
Yeah, great idea -- then we can vote on everyone's image as to whether or not they followed the rule of thirds and if not tell them it's 1 half centimeter off the third line, or cropped a line perfectly straight instead of just looking at the photo for how it's being presented. |
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11/26/2004 01:11:57 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by Britannica:
I would actually like the division number to be a Fibonacci number, 8 or 13 would be good. It would be easier to indicate the Golden Mean (Rule of Thirds origination) with these than with 10 divisions.
David |
Yeah, great idea -- then we can vote on everyone's image as to whether or not they followed the rule of thirds and if not tell them it's 1 half centimeter off the third line, or cropped a line perfectly straight instead of just looking at the photo for how it's being presented. |
Those that obsess over the thirds are going to obsess regardless. When using the proposed tool, a large part of what it will be used for are compositional variations. Using a matrix that intentionally avoids one of the strongest compositional tools (and likely the most widely known) just doesn't make much sense. Not including it does not prevent it from being used in the critique, it just makes the proposed tool less useful.
David
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11/26/2004 07:28:06 AM · #37 |
instead of a grid how about a mouse pointer that has the pixil co-ordanates of the photo that change as it is moved over the photo then all you have to do is move the mouse to area in question and quote the co-ordanates in you comment.... not sure if it can be done but it is an idea
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11/26/2004 08:09:41 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by 1st-2-click:
instead of a grid how about a mouse pointer that has the pixil co-ordanates of the photo that change as it is moved over the photo then all you have to do is move the mouse to area in question and quote the co-ordanates in you comment.... not sure if it can be done but it is an idea |
Now that sounds like it could work if that's possible. |
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