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 11/11/2004 04:15:52 AM · #1
Hi ya all.

I'm having problem with my digital photos when i'm getting them to print.
When i have the photos printed in a store, i always get them back cropped on all sides? Parts from all sides are missing an that destroyes many of my pictures.
Does anyone here know this problem? If so, what can i do? white borders? how big?
I would really like to know because i have to get some printed soon.

Thanks asij
 11/11/2004 04:41:04 AM · #2
That is because your original images are not the same aspect ratio as your prints. Next time, if you'r gonna print them say in 4x6, crop them yourself the way you want them in the same aspect ratio, which if I'm not mistaken is 1 to 1.5. Hope that helps.

June
 11/11/2004 05:01:59 AM · #3
Originally posted by chiqui74:
That is because your original images are not the same aspect ratio as your prints. Next time, if you'r gonna print them say in 4x6, crop them yourself the way you want them in the same aspect ratio, which if I'm not mistaken is 1 to 1.5. Hope that helps.

June


11/11/2004 05:31:22 AM · #4
Originally posted by asij:
When i have the photos printed in a store, i always get them back cropped on all sides? Parts from all sides are missing

Are you sure it's parts missing from ALL sides? If so it's a more fundamental issue than just cropping ratio..
 11/11/2004 05:31:39 AM · #5
Ok. i think i got it now.
I did what faidoi showed me...

6in 4in and res 150
than cropped.
so now it should get printed like it is?
 11/11/2004 05:32:45 AM · #6
Originally posted by faidoi:


Another way to do it is to use the Marque (M) tool and set a fixed aspect ratio. That way you can crop the image without being constrained to a fixed resolution.
 11/11/2004 05:35:59 AM · #7
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Originally posted by asij:
When i have the photos printed in a store, i always get them back cropped on all sides? Parts from all sides are missing

Are you sure it's parts missing from ALL sides? If so it's a more fundamental issue than just cropping ratio..


uhhh. No i´m sorry.. Just the topp and the button sides.
(had a better look)
 11/11/2004 05:37:11 AM · #8
Originally posted by asij:
uhhh. No i´m sorry.. Just the topp and the button sides.
(had a better look)

Ok, almost certainly aspect ratio then. :)
 11/11/2004 05:42:48 AM · #9
6in 4in and res 150
than cropped

So i should be save now?
11/11/2004 05:55:58 AM · #10
I´l take it as a yes:)

Thanks for the rescue, all of you...
 11/11/2004 06:02:30 AM · #11
My advice is to use the marquee tool and set the aspect ratio, that way the image wont be 4 inches by 6 inches but will just have a 1 to 1.5 ratio and it will be a bigger image. BTW, NEVER EVER save over the original.

June
 11/11/2004 08:40:42 AM · #12
Originally posted by asij:
Ok. i think i got it now.
I did what faidoi showed me...

6in 4in and res 150
than cropped.
so now it should get printed like it is?

Yes, that should make an accurate 4x6 print now.

However, it is usually much better to leave the "Resolution" box empty when using the crop tool.

Otherwise your photo is always resampled to 150 ppi, in many cases, reducing the resolution, or worse, upsampling it.

Message edited by author 2004-11-11 08:41:22.
 11/11/2004 08:57:49 AM · #13
even when you crop the image to a 4x6, any printer that uses light as it's printing source will still crop your photo a little bit. The reason for this is because it is being projected onto a piece of paper, it is nearly impossible to guarantee that photos will be projected perfectly onto each paper, especially when these machines are running on automatic. the way this problem is solved, is the projection is made larger than the piece of paper by a small amount. This guarantees that all of the image will appear fully on the paper.



Message edited by author 2004-11-11 08:58:46.
 11/11/2004 09:11:48 AM · #14
This is a pretty common issue right now in digital printing. Many digital cameras are using a 4:3 aspect ratio for their data. This is not meshing well with the old 35mm and 24mm (APS) systems in place in most photofinshing centers.

Crop correctly at home for a 4x6 size. That will prevent any problems. If you print at Ritz/Wolf/Kits, also make sure to get no borders on the images. If you use the instore systems (Alladin or another photo kiosk) make sure to use the zoom/crop feature to correctly line up your photos.

Clara
 11/11/2004 09:15:15 AM · #15
To my understanding, even film images get cropped in the printing process, you just never see it. Just keep the cropping factor in mind when you shoot. If it's a tight composition, chances are that not everything you saw will be printer, leave some room for this.

June
 11/11/2004 09:20:53 AM · #16
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Originally posted by faidoi:


Another way to do it is to use the Marque (M) tool and set a fixed aspect ratio. That way you can crop the image without being constrained to a fixed resolution.


I've never used this techinique before but I'd like to try it. Can you explain it in more detail? Oh, and how do you set the ratio? Thanks :-)
 11/12/2004 04:35:12 AM · #17
Ok. the photos are done and on the way..
Thanks again for useful tipps
11/12/2004 11:30:17 AM · #18
Or...you can find a place that gives you a choice to have your image fit or cropped. The fit image will have more white border around all sides. I choose fit most of the time. This example uses an 8 x 10 original image and a 4 x 6 print.



Message edited by author 2004-11-12 11:33:25.
 11/12/2004 11:44:54 AM · #19
4x6 digital prints will be the right size. Enlargements are different.

To get an 8x10 print you can print it 8x12 (which keeps the ratios in tact) and crop the bottom 2 inches yourself, or if they have a machine where you order prints, you should be able to digitally crop photos right on it.

You lose some of the photo so best to keep that in mind when shooting.
 11/12/2004 12:58:48 PM · #20
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
To get an 8x10 print you can print it 8x12 (which keeps the ratios in tact) and crop the bottom 2 inches yourself, or if they have a machine where you order prints, you should be able to digitally crop photos right on it.


Many places charge more for the 8x12 so if you want 8x10 and want to be frugal you should crop the file yourself.
 11/12/2004 01:29:37 PM · #21
All good advice. There are many ways to do it, but the bottom line is to be aware of exactly what print sizes you are ordering, and then to carefully crop your photos accordingly before submitting. If you want more than one size of a particular photo, 4x6 and 5x7, these are different aspect ratios and you will need to crop each file individually, or live with the decision of the printer.
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