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by hopper

Comment by SherwinJames:
Nicely composed and great detail. Really does tell a story in a light sort of way.

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Comment by Zigomar:

Originally posted by daboardergirl: Set-ups really show creativity. Good job!

but not creativity in photography.

Kris, don't get me wrong, I also didn't think this showed photographic skills and photographic creativity(which you obviously have) and therefore didn't deserve to win on a photography site.

Message edited by author 2007-02-28 15:42:45.

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Comment by hopper:
i don't mean to sound ungrateful ... i'm just surprised it won. it scored higher than images which were clearly superior (of course, this is my opinion)

thanks everyone for you kind words

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Comment by kandykarml:
uhhh.. I guess I'm a crappy judge of an interesting & compelling image, but I like this FOR THE CHALLENGE it was entered into.It bums me out to hear you, as the photographer didn't really like it because I think based on the majority of the comments & the fact that it won a ribbon, you and agenkin are in the minority. It may be cheesy, but it was creative, it was well lit, the focus is perfect & overall based on the merit of the photo, it was well done. It seems that if you are voting based on comparison's to other photo's, one might feel it wasn't as dramatic or challenging to capture, but that's not how I vote.. Besides, we all know what opinions are like..... (you can fill in the rest)

Message edited by author 2007-02-28 15:17:57.

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Comment by hopper:
You missed the point completely. I don't at all wish to discuss your images (which are quite good, but that's not the point). You're statement was that dpchallenge is somehow weaker because I've submitted an image that is not as good as someone else's. You're reasoning implies that every person new to photography should not participate here because only images which YOU think will benefit the site are allowed.

My image shouldn't have won ... but it hasn't weakened the site, which is the same as saying the site would have benefited without it.

Hilarious that you're pointing out my bad manners. Don't take what I'm saying as a person attack, take it for what it is - which is a defense of what you call tacky, mediocre images and whether or not they are a detriment to the site.

Originally posted by agenkin: Originally posted by hopper: Would you say that you're challenge entries have "benefited" the site? What do my entries have to do with this discussion? It is bad manners to turn a discussion onto the commenter's own images; if you feel like discussing them, feel free to post a comment under any of them. We are talking about *your* entry and your own admission that you submitted something that you yourself considered a bad image into a challenge just for the benefit of your WPL participation.

Message edited by author 2007-02-28 14:42:05.

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Comment by jdannels:
This is really creative, way to go Kris, congrats on your yellow!

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Comment by agenkin:

Originally posted by hopper: Would you say that you're challenge entries have "benefited" the site?

What do my entries have to do with this discussion? It is bad manners to turn a discussion onto the commenter's own images; if you feel like discussing them, feel free to post a comment under any of them.

We are talking about *your* entry and your own admission that you submitted something that you yourself considered a bad image into a challenge just for the benefit of your WPL participation.

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Comment by daboardergirl:
People are going to submit photos that they think will do well, regardless of if they are in the WPL or not...:) I like this photo. It illustrates the idea of hate quite well. Set-ups really show creativity. Good job!

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Comment by hopper:
Would you say that you're challenge entries have "benefited" the site?

Originally posted by agenkin: Originally posted by hopper: The WPL has nothing to do with the way people vote on images This is not what I was implying. My point was that (if I was reading you correctly) you would not have submitted this tacky, mediocre image if not for the WPL, which would have been a benefit for the site (well, at least from where I am standing).

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Comment by agenkin:

Originally posted by hopper: The WPL has nothing to do with the way people vote on images

This is not what I was implying.

My point was that (if I was reading you correctly) you would not have submitted this tacky, mediocre image if not for the WPL, which would have been a benefit for the site (well, at least from where I am standing).

Message edited by author 2007-02-28 13:18:16.