John³
by jmsetzler

Comment by DavidLevin:
I added this as one of my favorites, not because of the photo, but because of the comment under it, well said. Good luck.

John³
by jmsetzler

Comment by Davenit:
John, bravo. Ditto. Good luck to you...

My goal... The work of Emil Schildt //www.98981010.dk/emil/

Emil has found his voice. That is my goal, to find mine. Sounds like you have the same goal. I also said my goodbyes on my last image... Individuality is dead here and not rewarded IMO...

Message edited by author 2003-07-02 14:05:05.

John³
by jmsetzler

Comment by bamaster:
Setz, I don't think I could have said it better. You are dead-on with how this site rewards the literal and not the art. It is one reason I rarely submit anymore. I have taken photos where I was extremely pleases with the results but deleted it because I knew it would get penalized for content, style and/or quality. This site has a great purpose, but it does not inspire me to push the limits of myself.

I'm glad you have faced the reality that this site is not geared towards creative (or necessarliy advanced) photography. Countless wonderful moments captured are frowned upon for a "hot spot" or a "blur" or something pathetically insignificant like that. Like how many people brought up your over exposure in Light of the Spirit, even after you bring attention to it with your title.

Best of luck!

John³
by jmsetzler

Comment by Zeissman:
Personally John, I think you always explore creatively. Didnt you do a shot of urinals?

You shot in the bar was quite edgy, and real, and also did pretty well.

I think you are caught in the creative versus popular conudrum. If it is popular, it must not be creative? if it is creative, why can't it be popular? but it is popular, so it cant be creative.

I am sorry you are not enjoying your photography as much. Personally, I would love to be able to shot great stock photography. Good luck in your endevors, and enter challenges when it fits with what you want to do.

John³
by jmsetzler

Comment by aussie:
SETZ, SSSSSTTTTTAAAAAYYYYY. I love your work mate. But whatever you decide to do, I know you will do it well. Pop in and say 'hi' from time to time ok. PROMISE...
By the way, love the legs and that bald head!!

John³
by jmsetzler

Comment by ChrisW123:
Setzler, it's you! I'm sorry to hear you won't be participating in challenges anymore, we are going to miss your great work. I hope you change your mind and decide to participate from time to time. Your work and participation really inspires a lot of people here so I'd hate to see you less active. :(

I understand however. I wish Drew and Langdon would consider ways for adding another demension to the DPChallenge by possibly adding a new type of challenge geared towards beginner "photo art" with no rules. Then it could evolve from their to intermediate, etc. I wouldn't want that to be the focus of the site, but I think it could add a great new aspect to DPC.

John³
by jmsetzler

Comment by GeneralE:
I really think your "vision" need not exclude DPC, it just may preclude more ribbons until the site (and the voters) progress further.

John³
by jmsetzler

Comment by rickhd13:
How great that you can put yourself in that situation for us all to see.

Good luck with whatever road you decide to embark on.

From what I know of you from my time on here, I know you will be successful in whatever it is that you choose.

John³
by jmsetzler

Comment by Jean:
I think you have a fine sense of humour! Congratulations on your POTD on DPContest. Looking forward to seeing your work on other sites. Goodluck.

John³
by jmsetzler

Comment by sher:
lol...i love it!