We are on the same boat, let's shake hands and stop fighting
by william88

Comment by tanguera:
I love the double symmetry!! Great image.

Anna's Hummingbird with raindrops
by william88

Comment by Rmac:
Beautiful image, congrats on the ribbon!!

We are on the same boat, let's shake hands and stop fighting
by william88

Comment by decorama:
Amazing shot, good detail and spot on dof.

The perfect pose
by william88

Comment by Neil:
William, sorry about your DQ--it doesn't reflect poorly on this quality shot. The DQ is not specifically for cloning the wing tip. You extended the canvas on the left side and made new "image area". This is forbidden. You can never add image area to any of the four sides of the canvas.

Anna's Hummingbird with raindrops
by william88

Comment by timmi:
Congrats, I am glad this got a ribbon.

The perfect pose
by william88

Comment by william88:
You guys misunderstood my key point which is "what's the consequence of too many limits?". It will affect the whole community not just me. I didn't even send any message to SC to appeal for this shot.

Please do not distort my words, I didn't say SC being cruel to this specific shot or not. "Cruel DQs" are totally different words from your "Cruel SCs". You know that. And again I should emphasize my key point is the overall consequence of "cruel rules, cruel DQs and cruel votes", you probably know the consequence already by your own observation over the average number of entries for recent challenges. If you are the owner of a community website, do you think it's a good trend for you?

I didn't compare and say the two DQs were similar or anything (though they were DQed by the same rule), I put that link just for your convenience to read what I have said on 11/09/2010. I just didn't want to type all those words again. That's all. If you guys dislike this convenience, I can remove the link.

You may consider it as a joke when I sang that song. If a boat is sinking and both you and me are on the boat, I will team up with you to repair and save it instead of let it sink.

Originally posted by senor_kasper: Originally posted by william88: .................... I was so excited and reluctant to give up this shot. You didn't have to give it up at all! you could have just placed it in your portfolio, or entered it in 1x (for free) or the site you gave a link to Originally posted by william88: .................... As I understood from another rule in the advanced editing, using clone stamp to fix minor imperfection is legal and I think that should be encouraged if the shot is rare. The rule actually states: "clone out incidental power lines, twigs, dust specks, stray hairs, and similar minor imperfections within any capture used.", it is a bit hard to interpret that as allowing for cloning in non existing objects. It is even harder to accept that such practice should be encouraged despite the clearly written rule. Originally posted by william88: .................... I didn't create any new feature, I just repair the imperfection. Now, you are a most talented photographer and have enjoyed great success in this site, including yet another ribbon last night. With that in mind, your attempt at justifying your violation of the rule sounds disingenuous. As to why you would attempt a defense and accuse the SC of being cruel is even more puzzling, do you REALLY think you did not create a wing tip and a strip of background that were not there? The analogy with Enzo's picture is not even close. Please tell me you were joking and may regain respect for you.

Anna's Hummingbird with raindrops
by william88

Comment by littlemav:
This is perfection in detail and color!! Congratulations on your ribbon!!!!

Anna's Hummingbird with raindrops
by william88

Comment by hotpasta:
Well, this one won't make up for the last one, but well done! Love your work!

The perfect pose
by william88

Comment by senor_kasper:

Originally posted by william88: .................... I was so excited and reluctant to give up this shot.

You didn't have to give it up at all! you could have just placed it in your portfolio, or entered it in 1x (for free) or the site you gave a link to

Originally posted by william88: .................... As I understood from another rule in the advanced editing, using clone stamp to fix minor imperfection is legal and I think that should be encouraged if the shot is rare.

The rule actually states: "clone out incidental power lines, twigs, dust specks, stray hairs, and similar minor imperfections within any capture used.", it is a bit hard to interpret that as allowing for cloning in non existing objects. It is even harder to accept that such practice should be encouraged despite the clearly written rule.

Originally posted by william88: .................... I didn't create any new feature, I just repair the imperfection.

Now, you are a most talented photographer and have enjoyed great success in this site, including yet another ribbon last night. With that in mind, your attempt at justifying your violation of the rule sounds disingenuous. As to why you would attempt a defense and accuse the SC of being cruel is even more puzzling, do you REALLY think you did not create a wing tip and a strip of background that were not there? The analogy with Enzo's picture is not even close.

Please tell me you were joking and may regain respect for you.

Anna's Hummingbird with raindrops
by william88

Comment by tanguera:
Congrats on your ribbon!!! So beautiful and well captured.