Cobra Charmer
by TOY

Comment by escapetooz:

Originally posted by rugman1969: First off, I didn't call a lot of people fat asses. Second, I said only 1 person was anorexic. The person who posted this said he did not care how it scored, which is obviously untrue. I am only saying that if you can't take criticism, don't post anymore. And if she's not anorexic, well shame on me for sayiny it. But shame on you for calling me and others fat asses, when most of us are probably skinnier than you. Enjoy your 1st place ribbon and handle it like a professional. And finally, I was not looking for a free nude pic, Toyan is the one who brought this up, I was just referencing my comment to his. Congrats on your ribbon, and good luck in the future. If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the fire.

Caring about a score and caring about the reputation of your model are VERY different. I get that you were referencing the T&A comment to his comment. But don't be so silly as to think just because she HAS them means she should show them off. Come one.

It seems to me you can't handle the heat by taking a general statement about "fat asses" personally. Its silly to guess yourself skinnier than he and yet to assume the think the comment was directed at yourself and taking it to heart... and if you believe Laurent to be fat you certainly haven't done your homework.

Cobra Charmer
by TOY

Comment by alwaysRED:
I must say I feel very sorry for the model due to all of the controversy created by this photograph. It takes a lot of strong self esteem to be a healthy model in this day and age. I can attest that some of us cannot help that we are thin, it's not always about self image, it's about genetics. In fact, some of us would like to have a little more meat, too bad our metabolism says otherwise.

I like the creative approach you took with this image.

This is a beautiful photograph of a beautiful girl...well done

Cobra Charmer
by TOY

Comment by Sunshine86:
[quote=ShutterHack] WoW, this shot created some controversy,
First off, I dont see anyone complaining about the positive comments of people saying this is a beautiful shot, blue for sure, 10 etc...
**---Why would someone complain about that?? There is reason however to complain about inappropriate, immature comments made by amateurs---**
people who find this shot unattractive, gross, or haunting, also have an opinion and have a right to express their opinion what ever their opinion may be. trying to berrate a person for his or her opinion is the true problem here!
**---Yes they do, but this can be done tastefully with maturity also..Also-don't be a hypocrite-you say everyone should be able to say whatever they want but then you say they shouldn't be called out on the comments they make????.---**

You guys can be as pissed off as you want but as an artist/profesional you would this you would want to hear both good and bad however critical it may be. If you can't handled the comments dont submit!
**---There is such a thing as constructive criticism, but the majority of these people including myself don't have the skill level to give a critique that could even help improve on this already spectacular shot.---**
It is a shame that such an awesome piece of work has become the subject of such ugly comments (and no I don't mean all of them are).
To Toyan-this is an amazing shot and piece of art, do your best to ignore all the rude and simply _____ comments made. Congrats on your Ribbon, it was very well deserved and I look forward to seeing more of your work. It is so refreshing to see your models shown with such personality and individuality! Keep it up, and thanks for sharing.

Message edited by author 2007-03-27 00:59:58.

Cobra Charmer
by TOY

Comment by Blue Moon:

Originally posted by rugman1969: First off, I didn't call a lot of people fat asses. Second, I said only 1 person was anorexic. The person who posted this said he did not care how it scored, which is obviously untrue. I am only saying that if you can't take criticism, don't post anymore. And if she's not anorexic, well shame on me for sayiny it. But shame on you for calling me and others fat asses, when most of us are probably skinnier than you. Enjoy your 1st place ribbon and handle it like a professional. And finally, I was not looking for a free nude pic, Toyan is the one who brought this up, I was just referencing my comment to his. Congrats on your ribbon, and good luck in the future. If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the fire.

Well, for fear of being reported, I won't call you an ass, but your words do seem to be that of a very ugly donkey. Maybe you are new here, but if that is the case, I suggest you learn how to behave as a considerate adult--fast!

Yes, she is very skinny, but that's what makes her different in her own way. You can tell she's not anorexic b/c she has meat on her arms. My ribs show all the time, and I'm actually 10 pounds overweight. It's all about how you're built.

Cobra Charmer
by TOY

Comment by snackwells:

Originally posted by rugman1969: (snip) Let me tell you from the point of view of someone who has been around anorexic women. She is anorexic. Period. When you can see someones bones throughout most of their body, that is anorexic. (snip)

Actually, anorexia is a disorder of perceived body image and behavior. Therefore, you can't pass judgment on this lady if she is or is not anorexic, not having personally met her.

Be careful of using medical terms in a nonspecific manner, because sure, while 'anorexic' can be used as an adjective to describe a too-thin person, it has a very specific meaning, and can be offensive.

My $.02 :-)

Edit - Congratulations on a fascinating and original entry, well deserving of a blue.

Message edited by author 2007-03-27 00:17:05.

Human Geometry
by TOY

Comment by OmanOtter:
Cool pic; but, somebody please buy her a sandwich!

A C I D
by TOY

Comment by doug61853:
Now this is beauty. Great lighting and posing!

Cobra Charmer
by TOY

Comment by ShutterHack:
WoW, this shot created some controversy,

First off, I dont see anyone complaining about the positive comments of people saying this is a beautiful shot, blue for sure, 10 etc...

people who find this shot unattractive, gross, or haunting, also have an opinion and have a right to express their opinion what ever their opinion may be. trying to berrate a person for his or her opinion is the true problem here!

My immediate reaction was that this model had some type of decease and was truely handicapped? Sorry, thats what I came to mind the instant i looked at it. Some how if he neck is normal, it appears to be severly distorted and very unattractive to me. I reserved comment as I normally do when its negative. I am posting now because i feel strongly bthat anyone should have a voice, good bad or indifferent!

Technically the shot is sound but I expected more color for this specific challenge.

You guys can be as pissed off as you want but as an artist/profesional you would this you would want to hear both good and bad however critical it may be. If you can't handled the comments dont submit!

I am willing to type this comment or say it to anyone in person!

Get over yourselves!

Human Geometry
by TOY

Comment by fotomann_forever:
She is an amazing model and you work very well with her. Keep it up.

Cobra Charmer
by TOY

Comment by fotomann_forever:
The 1,2, and 3 votes were obviously trolls. Anyway, very awesome shot of a very lovely model. Great work you two did together.