Jaelynn McIntosh 087 2.jpg
by angela_packard

Comment by fotomann_forever:
I think this is my fave. Playful and sweet.

Bearing the Cross
by angela_packard

Comment by Sonifo:

Originally posted by pepperspray: Originally posted by Sonifo: Maybe a slightly different pose and don't like the expression, different crop and burning? wow, she may as well retake the damb thing and throw this away from what I hear. I can see this being a religious issue but nothing other than that. Christian persecution complex, anyone? While the shot has some nice colours and details, the image as a whole does look contrived and "weak" for such powerful imagery. Your reaction to critique reminds me of when I was moderating a poetry forum. Anyone that wrote anything in praise of their Lord (which ever one that might be, according to their culture), would assume that they were above critique due to the "holy" nature of their subject matter. But this is not the case, and many truly awful poems were written for and about God/s. Now this is far from a truly awful photograph - there is much to like about it, but also much that could have been done better. Makka's critique was spot-on, imho. I would like to have seen this girl's pose and facial expressions look more laboured, more tortured; and some burning of the sky to make it more dramatic, like the God/s are angry. Something to give more drama to it all! Sonifo, the photographer chose this subject matter, so it is the photographer's job to make it work. It's a pretty picture, but it is not a powerful one. Sorry if I come across as harsh, but I don't buy into the idea that if someone choses a religious theme, they are automatically exempt from anything other than high praise.

hehehe..not loooking at your profile I would say you are new here? The flag and religious beliefs do knock a photo down. That quote that you quoted from me was a question to the guy who wrote the critique.

I believe a critique is to help someone get better not to tell them how YOU would take the picture. hmm..how to explain...

OK...forget it.. I guess I feel the critiques are more of one persons opinion rather than a good hardcore critique that she could actually learn from, but I could be wrong...I tend to be wrong quite a bit.

I am not a religious freak, but yes I am a Christian woman. :-))

Bearing the Cross
by angela_packard

Comment by angela_packard:
Ok ya'll. I really like the shot! I do agree that with a different expression (more painful) that it might have made the picture place higher! But because it was for a dance shoot I wasn't thinking of DPCer's perspectives! I really liked the shot and after messing with it awhile I decided to enter it! Sometimes I don't make the right decisions on entering challenges. But like I said I liked the shot and wanted to see how it would place! I was disappointed that it didn't place higher but oh well! I do think people should have had more of an open mind when voting on a free study challenge...but I can't fix that so I am going to take what I get and learn from it! Thanks you all for the comments...good and bad! I am just happy to even be receiving comments especially after reading about how people aren't receiving much for comments in all the forums!

"You're the one I love, I think about you all the time"
by angela_packard

Comment by fotomann_forever:
::: Greetings from Critique Club :::

Hi, as requested, here is an indepth critique of your submission.

First Impression - the most important one:
Hey look, I finally get to critique one for my pal :-) My first impression was that it is very touching and nicely colored and composed.

Composition:
I like the square crop. If I were to change it any, I'd move the grave down to almost touching the bottom of the photo.

Subject:
I think it stands out well from the background. Maybe a little less deep DoF would have helped some but not too much, I think a lot of bokah in the background would have been really distracting.

Technical (Color, focus, and light):
All good. I don't think I'd change anything technically on this photo.

To grow its vote?:
Voters suck, we know that ;-) It's a good shot and IMO a bit under-rated. It has emotion and thought in it.

Summary:
I like it. Ofcourse you knew that. But, keep up the good work.

Hope to see more from you soon,
Leroy

Bearing the Cross
by angela_packard

Comment by pepperspray:

Originally posted by Sonifo: Maybe a slightly different pose and don't like the expression, different crop and burning? wow, she may as well retake the damb thing and throw this away from what I hear. I can see this being a religious issue but nothing other than that.

Christian persecution complex, anyone?

While the shot has some nice colours and details, the image as a whole does look contrived and "weak" for such powerful imagery.

Your reaction to critique reminds me of when I was moderating a poetry forum. Anyone that wrote anything in praise of their Lord (which ever one that might be, according to their culture), would assume that they were above critique due to the "holy" nature of their subject matter. But this is not the case, and many truly awful poems were written for and about God/s. Now this is far from a truly awful photograph - there is much to like about it, but also much that could have been done better. Makka's critique was spot-on, imho.

I would like to have seen this girl's pose and facial expressions look more laboured, more tortured; and some burning of the sky to make it more dramatic, like the God/s are angry. Something to give more drama to it all!

Sonifo, the photographer chose this subject matter, so it is the photographer's job to make it work. It's a pretty picture, but it is not a powerful one. Sorry if I come across as harsh, but I don't buy into the idea that if someone choses a religious theme, they are automatically exempt from anything other than high praise.

Bearing the Cross
by angela_packard

Comment by Nikonian Ninja:

Originally posted by Sonifo: I don't see this as a true critique! Maybe a slightly different pose and don't like the expression, different crop and burning? wow, she may as well retake the damb thing and throw this away from what I hear. I can see this being a religious issue but nothing other than that.

Isn't that what a critique is? Tips or advice , which are only opinions, on how to make the shot better or more impacting? From what I see, that is exactly what was done.

Message edited by author 2006-06-09 15:38:54.

Bearing the Cross
by angela_packard

Comment by Sonifo:

Originally posted by Makka: * Greetings from the Critique Club * Hmmm...interesting photo here. Reading through the comments you received it appears some people didn't like the theme you used, but as for myself being a very non-religious person I won't take any view on it here. The main thing that I see looking at this photo is that she's not really popping out from the background. Her outfit and the rock formations kind of blend together to a certain degree. I've noticed in your comments that you used a little dodge and burn on the photo. In my opinion I would of liked to have seen a little more, especially on that awesome cloudy sky in the background and a little more on the rock formations (which by the way are really cool). The focus seems pretty crisp and it's a nice balancing DOF that you've used. Maybe you could of tried the a slightly different crop so she wasn't so central or maybe shot from a slightly different angle? It's hard to say without having been there and seen what was around, plus, as you mentioned it was for a dance shoot. Overall it's a nice photo. I'm not a big fan of the expression on her face though. Maybe a slightly different pose with the cross could of made this a lot more powerful? Maybe some of these points may of helped your score a little, it's always hard to say because everyone has differing opinions. You've got some fantastic photos in your portfolio there so keep at it. I'm sure more ribbons will come your way! Neil

I don't see this as a true critique!

Maybe a slightly different pose and don't like the expression, different crop and burning? wow, she may as well retake the damb thing and throw this away from what I hear. I can see this being a religious issue but nothing other than that.

Love this shot! Wow! It made me have goosebumps..maybe because I seen the dance and know the girl but Angela, this shot totally rocks and is the best (in my opinion) shot i have seen from you.
Keep up the good work! You will definitly go far with it as you do anything else!

Flea Market DPC 1.jpg
by angela_packard

Comment by rscorp:
Another great shot. Excellent pose and colors.

Flea Market DPC 2.jpg
by angela_packard

Comment by rscorp:
Great photo. Loving that wood with the faded red paint. It looks great as a backdrop for the black outfit. She's very photogenic too. Nice job.

Flea Market DPC 1.jpg
by angela_packard

Comment by sherpet:
This is good Angela, I love the concept, and you are so talanted.....