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by jaxed

Comment by tinmason:
I just took the garbage out...I do apologize for my rant on a day that should be filled with joy for you. I did take a look at your profile and I think all the comments concerning your abilities are true. Don\'t let an old godger like me throw you off track.

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by jaxed

Comment by jaxed:

Originally posted by shaunjchang: Jaxed, you just keep taking great photographs like this. Don't let any of the self touting critics discourage you. I see more top ten finishes and blue ribbons in your future.

Thanks for the encouragement! I'm flattered that Tinmason thinks I know so much about editing. I still have my training wheels on as far as computers are concerned. My original picture was sent in during voting and validated by the site council, surely it would have been disqualified if I had photo chopped.

Tinmason,

Thank you for your opinion and the 7, I consider it a compliment:)

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by jaxed

Comment by shaunjchang:
Jaxed, you just keep taking great photographs like this. Don't let any of the self touting critics discourage you. I see more top ten finishes and blue ribbons in your future.

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by jaxed

Comment by carina:
I didn't see this until today. It is just beautiful, capturing her in a thoughful moment. The background just enhances the skin and hair tones. I enjoyed your comments about the parameters in the camera as I have that camera and lens. We can always learn something, with photography it can be like an epiphany.

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by jaxed

Comment by tinmason:
And it's obvious to me that (shaunjchang) you also do not know what you're talking about. Let's see...doesn't own a camera...never done a lick of photo editing in their life. You want to judge my skills...here it is: in addition to the twelve years of photo editing, I also spent eight years repairing cameras as well as working behind them...you go take some art classes...you go take some photography classes and after you have removed your head from where it's not supposed to be...then you can come tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about...Jaxed I do apologize I fotgot to congratulate you on nice image...However, I still stand by my opinion and my rating of a seven...which is what you averaged in the voting.

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by jaxed

Comment by tinmason:
Never said I was a photographer...good bad or otherwise...but I am a damn good photo editor and IMO if you want this type of thing then throw out the basic editing rules and the advanced editing rules and let the photographer decide what an image needs in the way of photo editing and then judge that.I thought I lived in America where an Artist is not restricted by other peoples ideas of what should be allowed because it gives them a safe, warm, and fuzzy feeling when they go to bed at night...buy a camera, take some photos and then try some photo editing. You might learn something and then be able to give an honest opion of someone else's skills.

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by jaxed

Comment by shaunjchang:
This picture is remarkable. I have no idea what tinmason means by well beyond basic photo editing. I wonder if tinmason has ever actually just taken a good photograph. After 12 years of "photo chopping" I guess there would be no need for talent, just computer skills. I don't see anything more than a small amount of softening. Other than that Kudos Jaxed!! Great talent in just the basic photo. It actually shows that you know how to compose a good photo shoot, without having to fall back on Photoshop just to make the photo pleasing. "IMO" there is art and then there is color by numbers. This is Art, this is talent.

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by jaxed

Comment by tinmason:
and finally, the black edging around the head definately lost points with me. I give a seven.

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by jaxed

Comment by tinmason:
In addition, I deducted points for lack of originality...I have seen an almost duplicate of this image in a previous challenge...it was also a first place winner which IMO also did not deserve a blue ribbon.


Message edited by author 2005-11-03 21:02:48.

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by jaxed

Comment by tinmason:
I've been photo chopping for twelve years and you did a good job with the hair but not blue ribbon...IMO this went far beyond basic photo editing.