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02/15/2008 04:16:10 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by nomad469:
You dont have to meet the actual rules of the challenge that the grand prise looser came from right??? |
You need to follow the Advanced Editing ruleset that this challenge is running under, regardless of what the "Brown" you're trying to duplicate/improve ran under. Obviously, you don't need to use all of the Advanced rules if not needed.
If you're refering to any "special flags" from another challenge, those wouldn't apply in this case.
That's the way I'm interpreting in anyway. Good luck! :-) |
Thats what I was getting at ... as well a last place mostly due to DNMC I figure |
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02/15/2008 04:46:03 PM · #27 |
| I know that I may seem really dense, but one more clarification... so if for example, I chose the slightly blurred photo of the orange that came in last in the Orange challenge partly because the rules said you couldn't use an actual orange... if I took a clear photo of an actual orange (which might or might not be better than the original entry, depending on my skill) -- that's okay? Even if it still violates the rules of the original challenge? That's the part I'm still not quite getting. Thanks! |
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02/15/2008 04:57:43 PM · #28 |
| I think it's not always going to be possible to really duplicate a brownie and also improve it at the same time. Woudl an "inspired by" type of entry work? I suppose the votes will tell. |
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02/15/2008 04:58:46 PM · #29 |
First off the DNMC is subjective and is not a part of the rules. In other words you can't be DQ'd for not meeting the challenge. Second, since this challenge is about choosing a last place entry any last place entry would be meeting the challenge.
Message edited by author 2008-02-15 17:03:36. |
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02/15/2008 05:03:47 PM · #30 |
I agree with yospiff, expecially for the portraits is impossible reproduce the same photograph. probably could be good a similar photo. Many brown ribbons are exclusively captured for the brown...and they will be brown in this challenge also :)
Message edited by author 2008-02-15 17:04:10. |
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02/15/2008 05:12:54 PM · #31 |
| Thank you. I think I understand now. :-) |
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02/15/2008 06:15:00 PM · #32 |
i wish that guy didn't enter his hairy ass and ruin my shot at a brown. i would have reshot my own brown ribbon - missed by one spot ;}
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02/15/2008 07:58:46 PM · #33 |
| thanx everyone. quite helpful |
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02/15/2008 08:25:58 PM · #34 |
ow. ow. ow. ow. ow. ow. ow.
I just spent the past few hours browsing the first two years worth of browns. I don't think I can muster the strength to resign my membership and make and attempt at this challenge. I'm feeling kinda queesy. |
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02/15/2008 08:27:48 PM · #35 |
ok i have one more question smart people.
do we have to include a link or something to the picture we are immitating? |
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02/15/2008 08:31:32 PM · #36 |
| If it's not a last place finisher, is it subject to DQ or just DNMC? |
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02/15/2008 09:23:43 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:
ok i have one more question smart people.
do we have to include a link or something to the picture we are immitating? |
No one will actually see the link until after voting, but if I end up entering i will include a link to the original... I think its a good idea. :) |
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02/15/2008 09:25:38 PM · #38 |
| I have one brown ribbon but I doubt anyone can make it better : P |
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02/15/2008 09:46:14 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by secretagent65:
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:
ok i have one more question smart people.
do we have to include a link or something to the picture we are immitating? |
No one will actually see the link until after voting, but if I end up entering i will include a link to the original... I think its a good idea. :) |
Why not just title it the same as the original and include the challenge it's from also? |
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02/15/2008 09:49:23 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Why not just title it the same as the original and include the challenge it's from also? |
What would work too, then the person could see the original during voting if they went to look it up. |
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02/15/2008 09:53:18 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by secretagent65:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Why not just title it the same as the original and include the challenge it's from also? |
What would work too, then the person could see the original during voting if they went to look it up. |
;-) |
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02/16/2008 12:14:34 AM · #42 |
| i'm confused now. i thought we were supposed to edit the actual brown ribbon photo to make it better. now it seems like it's supposed to be an imitation. that means any photos of a particular area are out unless you happen to live there, too. i don't quite see the point of imitating it. |
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02/16/2008 01:26:43 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by desertoddity:
i'm confused now. i thought we were supposed to edit the actual brown ribbon photo to make it better. now it seems like it's supposed to be an imitation. that means any photos of a particular area are out unless you happen to live there, too. i don't quite see the point of imitating it. |
Most of the brown ribbon shots are pretty generic, actually. I don't think that's a problem...
R. |
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02/16/2008 03:17:22 AM · #44 |
Yeah, it's not like there's a shortage of number or variety of shots to choose from :)
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02/16/2008 03:28:43 AM · #45 |
Originally posted by secretagent65:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Why not just title it the same as the original and include the challenge it's from also? |
What would work too, then the person could see the original during voting if they went to look it up. |
I should hope people do this (at least say what challenge). If not, I'll assume it's a shoehorn and vote accordingly.
Message edited by author 2008-02-16 03:29:16.
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02/16/2008 03:34:10 AM · #46 |
Originally posted by desertoddity:
i'm confused now. i thought we were supposed to edit the actual brown ribbon photo to make it better. |
No
Originally posted by desertoddity:
now it seems like it's supposed to be an imitation. |
Just like any other Deja Vu challenge Deja Vu
Originally posted by desertoddity:
that means any photos of a particular area are out unless you happen to live there, too. |
It's true - but why would you try and copy a picture of the Eiffel Tower (say) if you live in New Mexico ? There are literally hundreds of Brown Ribbon Winners out there covering evry challenge ever run - choose one you can improve upon
Originally posted by desertoddity:
i don't quite see the point of imitating it. |
Two reasons : )
1) It's a Deja Vu challenge (see above)
2) To bring out the potential that lies locked within the picture - to try and produce what was in the original photogs mind when they were putting the picture together, but which they (at that time) may not have had the technical expertise to capture.
Although to be fair, we may never know what was in some of their minds : )
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02/16/2008 03:49:11 AM · #47 |
Originally posted by desertoddity:
i'm confused now. i thought we were supposed to edit the actual brown ribbon photo to make it better. now it seems like it's supposed to be an imitation. that means any photos of a particular area are out unless you happen to live there, too. i don't quite see the point of imitating it. |
My guess is you reshoot the picture from scratch but make it better. Obviously it wont be exactly the same because you need to make the necessary changes to make it a winner. Not all brown ribbons are going to be suitable to try to replicate either so you will need to be selective about what you choose. |
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02/16/2008 04:26:02 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by Monique64:
Originally posted by desertoddity:
i'm confused now. i thought we were supposed to edit the actual brown ribbon photo to make it better. now it seems like it's supposed to be an imitation. that means any photos of a particular area are out unless you happen to live there, too. i don't quite see the point of imitating it. |
My guess is you reshoot the picture from scratch but make it better. Obviously it wont be exactly the same because you need to make the necessary changes to make it a winner. Not all brown ribbons are going to be suitable to try to replicate either so you will need to be selective about what you choose. |
I agree. In the "normal" Deju Vu challenges, you reshoot the picture, so why would this one be any different? |
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02/16/2008 06:28:59 AM · #49 |
| Judging by the quality of some of the brown ribbon photos you could take a picture of anything and do better. |
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02/16/2008 06:39:41 AM · #50 |
Complete summary of rules as I can gather.
Find a picture that finished last place in any DP challenge and imitate it. You can choose a picture that DNMC but not one that was DQ’d.
To bring it to life you can vary lighting, angles, focus, exposure etc. plus you can apply advanced editing where it may have been limited by basic. Your picture doesn’t have to meet the criteria of the challenge you’re imitating so just because something was DNMC’s in its own challenge doesn’t mean it will be here. Current advanced editing rules apply regardless of the original rules. Your title should be the same as the original entry or challenge so people can look it up and a link would be nice but it’s not required.
You will be DNMC’d if your picture is totally unrelated to the brown e.g. they took a picture of a banana and you took one of a pear. Other than that I imagine some fresh interpretation is encouraged.
Basically pics that have potential but where technically lacking or DNMC seem to be the best choices.
....and members only, dam.
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