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 08/13/2007 08:39:47 PM · #1


This picture got crushed I really liked this one was wondering if anyone could give me some insight......The subject or is the picture just that bad?

also this was another version I was gonna enter is it the better one??


perhaps the title through people off???

I went with return because the picture is showing the animal returning to the earth even the surrounding area and the deer kind of blends together.
 08/13/2007 08:42:05 PM · #2
I'm sure most people had no idea what they were looking at and weren't interested.
 08/13/2007 08:46:31 PM · #3
I think the comments you were left indicate what the problem was. Some people couldn't tell what it was of, and others just didn't like the subject.
 08/13/2007 08:46:42 PM · #4
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
I'm sure most people had no idea what they were looking at and weren't interested.


I didn't look at the original since I'm at work but if it anything like the other venison version I would have to agree with tchnoshroom. It is sometimes a sad truth but people want to see something that interest them and appeals to them. A decaying dead animal does this to a VERY small percentage of the regular population and even smaller for DPC members.
 08/13/2007 08:48:19 PM · #5
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
I'm sure most people had no idea what they were looking at and weren't interested.


I had a hard time figuring out what it was. After I read the description I saw it, but not before. Maybe I have a bad imagination.
 08/13/2007 08:49:19 PM · #6
I think that there is no center point of attention. Nothing really to focus on. JMO
 08/13/2007 08:51:44 PM · #7
I knew what it was but still was unsure until I read the description to confirm.

The sharpness and tones are good. It is interesting to me, almost abstract. Sad though. I dunno. 4.5 is extreme but it was a rather large free study. I was pretty surprised at my own score.

What can you do? I just try and do what others dont and pay more attention and time on each photo if I'm gunna vote.
 08/13/2007 08:52:25 PM · #8
I gave your photo a 3, which is rare for me. I wasn't sure what it was, but it appeared to be a dead, smashed animal of some sort. I didn't think there was any redeeming factor in the photo....no interesting shapes, colors, lines, contrast, lighting or composition. Just a photo of a dead smashed animal which held no appeal to me at all. Sorry.
 08/13/2007 08:54:15 PM · #9
If you have an idea that content may be a problem, why would you enter it into a challenge based on popular opinion? If you have an idea that content may be a problem that is probably part of the problem.

What I see is an out of focus photo with a nearly unidentifiable subject that is flat in both tonality and contrast...
 08/13/2007 08:55:55 PM · #10
This is pretty gruesome photo (I am not sure "pretty" is a fitting adjective here :)), you shouldn't expect it to fare well here. I personally find this shot captivating and very well made technically, with a great control of exposure and tones. If it is of any consolation, here is a similar photo by xion,

which did not score much better than yours. Just ignore the score when you submit stuff like this and be happy with the photo itself.

Message edited by author 2007-08-13 20:57:40.
 08/13/2007 09:01:04 PM · #11
that's funny. I said the tones were good and then 2 after me said they weren't and that the photo wasn't interesting at all.

LOL. To each his own I guess.
 08/13/2007 09:21:25 PM · #12
just wanted some more input rather than "what is that?"

I am not sure if I like it more when someone tells me they don't like a picture then when they do. all I ask from a comment or from a person is their honest opinion. Because thats what I belive art is about ideas and everyones are precious...
 08/13/2007 09:22:16 PM · #13
I saw this as a phot of something dead, meaning not even sure what it was and did not care to know, I have seen dead animals before and they do not fasinate me in any way so a picture of one just did not peak my interest at all. Could I see this hanging on my wall, absolutely not. Would it interest me if I saw it on someone elses wall, no. I looked at the image a felt it was OOF and sort of bland. Just my opinion.
 08/13/2007 09:26:18 PM · #14
The second shot is better, however, it still would have been "unknown" content to the avg viewer!

IMO if you could have somehow separated the deer from the background via selective desat, or some other means...this would have scored higher.
 08/13/2007 09:31:41 PM · #15
people keep saying it is out of focus.
I did this on purpose. I added the blur to help show the earth taking back it animal child. just thought I would throw that in there.....
I just wanted to try and post something diffrent in a free study

08/13/2007 09:35:37 PM · #16
Eeeeeee. . .I missed that photo in the challenge, but I have to say, I I'm glad I did. Being a psycho animal lover, a photo of a dead decaying animal -- of a species I have a strong affection for -- would unfortunately cause an emotion in me not alot unlike seeing a dead smashed up person. I just don't know too many people who get a positive emotion when seeing a dead squashed animal, an unfortunately, here, people vote based on their positive feeling about a photo.

I think that's why your score was so low. It just evoked a negative response from too many people (sorry) but you asked why it scored so low. That's my 2-cents.

08/13/2007 09:37:59 PM · #17
here is with select desat
 08/13/2007 09:39:38 PM · #18
Originally posted by SandyP:
Eeeeeee. . .I missed that photo in the challenge, but I have to say, I I'm glad I did. Being a psycho animal lover, a photo of a dead decaying animal -- of a species I have a strong affection for -- would unfortunately cause an emotion in me not alot unlike seeing a dead smashed up person. I just don't know too many people who get a positive emotion when seeing a dead squashed animal, an unfortunately, here, people vote based on their positive feeling about a photo.

I think that's why your score was so low. It just evoked a negative response from too many people (sorry) but you asked why it scored so low. That's my 2-cents.


I like deer myself. This is not a anti-deer picture. and why does a picture have to make you feel good or positive?
 08/13/2007 09:41:42 PM · #19
Originally posted by electrolost:
people keep saying it is out of focus.
I did this on purpose. I added the blur to help show the earth taking back it animal child. just thought I would throw that in there.....
I just wanted to try and post something diffrent in a free study


Its one of those shots that if you like it go for it, but you asked why others did not rate it as high as you would have. The focus looks soft which in my opinion and others did not help, I don't think I looked at it enough the first time I saw it to even care about the focus because of the lack of an interesting subject to me. Don't let scores be how you judge you photos or they will begin to look like everyone elses images!
 08/13/2007 09:51:04 PM · #20
Left you a comment. Even reading the description, I can't find the deer. Are we looking at it head on or in profile? If I'd voted on it, I probably would've given it a 3.
 08/13/2007 10:00:43 PM · #21
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
I'm sure most people had no idea what they were looking at and weren't interested.


I didn't vote, but I agree. I wouldn't have given it over a 5. It would have made me stop and look though. WTF usually does.

Sometimes chaos for composition works. It didn't here, IMO.
 08/13/2007 10:02:46 PM · #22
I really enjoy that image, I understand why it doesn't work here because it just doesn't appeal to the masses. I really think that there is a small following of that kind of photography here and in the right place would be popular.
 08/13/2007 10:05:02 PM · #23
It might be that it just doesn't work at web size. I'd be interested in seeing how a larger version looks.
 08/13/2007 10:35:50 PM · #24
Originally posted by electrolost:
I like deer myself. This is not a anti-deer picture. and why does a picture have to make you feel good or positive?

Well, I don't think a photo has to make you feel good or positive -- but the viewer does have to have a positive reaction to it. i.e., a photo can make you sad, or be compelling in its depiction of something ugly -- or of a harsh side of life. . .but. . .still. . .even those types of pictures I think need to stir an emotion that makes the viewer think well of the photo itself IF the photographer wants popular opinion to vote it high.

08/13/2007 11:02:21 PM · #25
why the hell is it in the nude gallery?
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