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11/01/2005 11:50:52 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by pfiltz:
Update folks... And thanks for your input.
I think I'll try to use the histogram on the MkII a bit more. Right now, I don't even look at it.
I think the camera and my meter don't see eye to eye with regard to exposure and ISO settings.
If I error, it will be on the + side with regard to exposure. I'm going to try and shoot again tomorrow, with this little guy. Hope to post something worth posting for a change...
Way too little time, and too much to learn on RAW for me...
Best, |
so you're going to take my advice, which you dismissed earlier. This is why I almost refuse to try to help here anymore....................
why are you shooting raw if you're not comfortable with it? Why not trust the camera's metering system? You upgraded the technology, but you're still relying on your old meter? Learn the camera man, seriously, practice...and you're welcome for the valuable info. |
David, you may not mean to be, but you come off as very insulting. your first post was condescending at best, and this follow-up is worse. My personal opinion.
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11/02/2005 07:33:02 AM · #27 |
De,
I'm not going to get into a P'n contest with you. Why should I. The explanation you gave was not enough details for me. Practice.
If hadn't ever picked up a camera, I'd say 'valid point'. Im an IT person for the first 1/2 of the day, managing 4 sites. I'm also a studio owner all the other hours left in the day.
I've only ever shot using Digital. FujiS1, Canon D60's, 10D, 20D, and now MkII. I have a basic grasp of digi. What I don't have is a grasp of RAW Conversion processes, and software.
I'll be working on that over the weekend. After the wedding I have to shoot, returning phone calls, uploading orders, packaging prints, calling customers, etc....
Best, |
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11/02/2005 08:09:19 AM · #28 |
shrugs...well like I said, and I wasn't trying to say that you didn't know how to take a picture or know about lighting or know about anything photography related...and that is exactly why practice is what I think you needed.
If you weren't an expert, I'd recommend a book or a portrait workshop, but being that you have been doing this professionally for 5 years, and you're just using a new camera that you're not familiar with and don't quite know exactly how it works, I just figured that practice with this new camera until you got it down, then your results should be better than with your other camera.
oh well...I guess that's just the way I come off. What can I do, I just have a really hard time relaying my thoughts to typing, I didn't mean bad, that's just how it seems I guess...oh well good luck man.
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11/02/2005 08:11:40 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by kyebosh:
you can't meter strobe lights with the in camera meter? |
See, I didn't know that. Because with my camera, and an sb-600, when I take a picture, it pops off two flashes, the first one for metering, then the second one for the flash -- I just assumed that was the same way...I guess not...my ignorance i suppose.
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11/02/2005 08:14:49 AM · #30 |
The problem is under exposure, Digital Cameras tolerate slight over exposure a lot better than Underexposure. Interesting and informative article on Luminous Landscape about Exposing to the Right. And on making the Histogram your best friend. Underexposing and then trying to pull the shadows out will produce noise and banding quite often. Expose as far to the right of the histogram as you can without blowing the highlights and you'lll be ok.
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11/02/2005 08:17:29 AM · #31 |
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11/02/2005 08:21:13 AM · #32 |
Ok, I had a look at your RAW file, most of the data is bunched up on the left 1/3 of the histogram, the part that holds the less information, when you try pulling info out of that you'll get noise and banding...You are underexposed by at least 2 stops here.
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11/02/2005 08:29:22 AM · #33 |
Here's my processing of your original file, it's pretty good, no noise or banding 
Even on the 100% crop of a shadow area 
In Adobe Camera RAW in the "detail" tab there are sliders for "luminance smoothing" (monochrome noise reduction) and for "Color Noise Reduction", check those to make sure they are doing what they are supposed to do.
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11/02/2005 09:23:10 AM · #34 |
No worries De.
Last night was the night that broke the camels back. I have quite a bit in perspective right now. Especially knowing some of the things CS2 was doing by default, along with knowing my MkII and my hand meter aren't necessarily on the same page with regard to proper exposure.
The proof will be in the pudding on the next shoot, hopefully sometime today or tomorrow. Twas a very long day yesterday. Things will start to look up, once I get through this RAW training Curve...
Regards,
P.S. Thanks DrNick. |
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11/02/2005 10:28:50 AM · #35 |
Just a note...
When I first used Photoshop CS2 with the RAW conversion, I found that my photos looked like "crap". Turned out that it was auto-setting the levels and the result was immense noise. (These were low-light gig shots but looked great in camera. I turned off the "auto-level" selection and manually adjusted. What a world of difference.
This may be the case... |
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