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01/10/2003 02:15:36 PM · #1
I am living in a country with one of the highest number of people per square mile, we don't have mountains, we don't have canyons, we live underneath the sea level, you can't walk a mile without a city or village, everything is flat and covered by snow. There are roads everywhere, and where there is no road there is a railtrack or an airport.

I am going to include my idea of a landscape for that. I didn't have much time, it was a rush to get the right light. I don't bother about perfectly meeting the challenge.
Photo's with empthy white nothingness, the local bussiest crossing, nature, the airfield, the harbour, water, buildings, people, ugly brown stuff in bad gray overcast light with snow backgrounds, etc., etc., etc. are all going to get a high vote when they are beautiful, technically good and appeal.

Don't argue, go out there, make something beautiful and make me happy!
01/09/2003 11:37:37 PM · #2
someone asks for an opinion, a couple of people offer one, and then someone has to defend theirs. an opinion is an opinion, is an opinion, and here is mine --

i think a landscape can a sunset/rise in it, but if it is just a sky, I would consider it more of a "skyscape" if there is such a thing. I think it definitely needs land in it somewhere. I also think buildings, etc, are okay, though I am tempted to vote them down, because I can take pictures of vast expanses and no buildings showing and people in cities can't! Revenge for city life, muhahahahahahahah!

however, like john, i have a bunch of dead trees, dead grass, weird light that is casting weird shadows but not weird enough to be a good picture, so, alas, i am not sure what i will do.

There is some excavation with heavy equipment going on below my house. Maybe I'll take a picture of that, and call it "Land Scrape."
01/09/2003 10:25:40 PM · #3
Just go out and shoot and have fun. I've been taught that a landscape is a landscape and a cityscape is a city scape. Its too bad JMsetzler can't find beauty in the dead of winter. I've been lucky as to be going to school early in the morning when the fog around and I've been taking quite alot of pictures, it even made me late one time, oh well, who needs health when your having fun taking pictures anyway? We don't get too much snow around here, but I love the snow. I look foward to this weeks challenge becuase I love landscapes so much, and like to see peoples work on here because of the broad range of talent. Peace
01/09/2003 09:53:20 PM · #4
My two cents...

It says to be creative so surely it could be a landscape of anything? The is going to be my first submission (provided I have time on the weekend to take some photo's) and I actually considered a "dirty kitchen sink" landscape.

Obviously I'm a hack (ie: opposite to expert) but I think a photo of a plate would be a portrait whilst a pile of dirty dishes spread over a bench would be a landscape.

PS: For what it's worth I changed my mind on the kitchen sink thing a while ago - my landscape will be more conventional, but not too conventional.
01/09/2003 08:37:50 PM · #5
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Originally posted by PTLParsons:

What is wrong with everybody? Why are people so touchy. A question was asked indicating an opinion was sought. I gave my opinion, and it is only one opinion of how many people on this site that have opinions and cast votes. Others may or may not agree, and that is alright. At least I did answer his question. Then I answered jimmy4 by defining what I "thought" landscape meant to me. And it does include snow, rain, or whatever happens to be going on in that area at that time. Snow shots are beautiful. Snow on a house, tree, land, stream, mountain, or whatever is a landscape. Let's be broad minded and allow each their opinion. After all it is just an opinion and not something to argue over, fight over, or get upset or sarcastic about. This is a friendly place where we can all be different. Yet we are all alike in that we love photography and that's what brings us together. Enjoy it. I do and I wish each and everyone of you the best, but more than that I pray you enjoy it and love your photos.


The only thing that could possibly be wrong is that people are asking these questions to try to figure out what they should photograph to 'meet' the challenge. IMO, this is a bad idea. People will read some of these comments and try to tailor their photographs to meet what they read here. What is posted here is only a microscopic sample of what responses will be received.

I think everyone should simply photograph what makes them happy :) Too much emphasis is placed on doing photos of what one thinks that others will like.

I'm personally struggling with the concept of landscape photos in the dead of winter. There are plenty of dead trees and lots of brown grass around my neighborhood. I seriously doubt that I could make a landscape photo at this point in time that would make me happy.

Sunsets create an advantage in a landscape scenario, and, yes, i think a sunset is a perfectly legitimate landscape photo.

To PTL: I think you should submit some photos to some challeges one day :)


FYI: I did, this challenge. You either haven't voted on it or didn't comment on it. But it's here.
01/09/2003 07:45:34 PM · #6
magnetic9999 you know that would work .....Grape Nuts spilled would make a table or floor landscape.
I guess I am really a bleeding heart liberal, BUT
I do see landscape in many thing. Even Grape Nuts ....which here are too expensive to spill on the floor.
01/09/2003 07:15:22 PM · #7
this is getting bad. i cant get any rocks. looks like im going to have to use grape nuts instead ...

~_~

Originally posted by bamaster:

Originally posted by magnetic9999:

because time is so short and opportunities so sparse, i will probably be creating a 'landscape' to shoot in the 'studio', using aquarium gravel and some artificial christmas tree branches.

i hope no one notices :-D


Boobs = hills. Stomach = valleys. Apple = tree. I think I could pull that one off. Might call it "Forbidden Landscape". Whatchu think?

01/09/2003 05:52:26 PM · #8
If anyone doesnt believe that the quaility of light, including sunsets, are not part of landscape photography, please check out the wonderful gallery of the late Galen Rowell
01/09/2003 05:43:54 PM · #9
Originally posted by rcrawford:

Do you think it's OK to include a sunset in your landscape or do you think that would be voted down? Just need some advice before I go out and shoot.
Thanks,
Roger


There have been some wicked sunsets 'round these parts lately. Get ready for it, I know of at least one that's coming down the pipe. I don't see how the state of the sky affects the landscape...should we make sure to shoot when the sky is nice and bland? I think not...
01/09/2003 04:10:33 PM · #10
Originally posted by Morgan:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

I think a sunset is ok in a landscape.. I do expect to see a lot of those next week. Unfortunately, it would be my best chance around here this time of year thought. the grass is brown and the trees are bare...


Consider yourself lucky. Everything here is simply pure white with a least foot of snow. I wish we could see the grass and the trees. The sun is MIA too.


consider yourself lucky! i am jealous, I want Snow!
01/09/2003 11:38:17 AM · #11
I was just curious and that is why I asked. I won't tailor a photo to one persons opinion. I thought her statement was a bit harsh so that's why I asked. Thanks for replying PTL.
01/09/2003 11:35:52 AM · #12
Originally posted by magnetic9999:

because time is so short and opportunities so sparse, i will probably be creating a 'landscape' to shoot in the 'studio', using aquarium gravel and some artificial christmas tree branches.

i hope no one notices :-D


Boobs = hills. Stomach = valleys. Apple = tree. I think I could pull that one off. Might call it "Forbidden Landscape". Whatchu think?
01/09/2003 11:32:19 AM · #13
Originally posted by PTLParsons:

What is wrong with everybody? Why are people so touchy. A question was asked indicating an opinion was sought. I gave my opinion, and it is only one opinion of how many people on this site that have opinions and cast votes. Others may or may not agree, and that is alright. At least I did answer his question. Then I answered jimmy4 by defining what I "thought" landscape meant to me. And it does include snow, rain, or whatever happens to be going on in that area at that time. Snow shots are beautiful. Snow on a house, tree, land, stream, mountain, or whatever is a landscape. Let's be broad minded and allow each their opinion. After all it is just an opinion and not something to argue over, fight over, or get upset or sarcastic about. This is a friendly place where we can all be different. Yet we are all alike in that we love photography and that's what brings us together. Enjoy it. I do and I wish each and everyone of you the best, but more than that I pray you enjoy it and love your photos.


The only thing that could possibly be wrong is that people are asking these questions to try to figure out what they should photograph to 'meet' the challenge. IMO, this is a bad idea. People will read some of these comments and try to tailor their photographs to meet what they read here. What is posted here is only a microscopic sample of what responses will be received.

I think everyone should simply photograph what makes them happy :) Too much emphasis is placed on doing photos of what one thinks that others will like.

I'm personally struggling with the concept of landscape photos in the dead of winter. There are plenty of dead trees and lots of brown grass around my neighborhood. I seriously doubt that I could make a landscape photo at this point in time that would make me happy.

Sunsets create an advantage in a landscape scenario, and, yes, i think a sunset is a perfectly legitimate landscape photo.

To PTL: I think you should submit some photos to some challeges one day :)
01/09/2003 11:28:38 AM · #14
What I find amusing is all the debate and discussion about this when the Challenge description says: "This is a classic area of photography that needs little explanation."

Obviously the challenge gods didnt think it was THAT complicated :).


01/09/2003 11:06:29 AM · #15
What is wrong with everybody? Why are people so touchy. A question was asked indicating an opinion was sought. I gave my opinion, and it is only one opinion of how many people on this site that have opinions and cast votes. Others may or may not agree, and that is alright. At least I did answer his question. Then I answered jimmy4 by defining what I "thought" landscape meant to me. And it does include snow, rain, or whatever happens to be going on in that area at that time. Snow shots are beautiful. Snow on a house, tree, land, stream, mountain, or whatever is a landscape. Let's be broad minded and allow each their opinion. After all it is just an opinion and not something to argue over, fight over, or get upset or sarcastic about. This is a friendly place where we can all be different. Yet we are all alike in that we love photography and that's what brings us together. Enjoy it. I do and I wish each and everyone of you the best, but more than that I pray you enjoy it and love your photos.
01/09/2003 10:58:49 AM · #16
My suggestion to everyone who wonders about the definition of 'landscape' is to take your own idea of a landscape and don't worry about what other people think it means...


01/09/2003 10:55:12 AM · #17
Originally posted by jimmyn4:

Originally posted by PTLParsons:

I don't think that is really what was meant by landscape. But then that's just my opinion. Those won't be getting high scores from me as far as meeting the challenge. Unless it's not real dark and the landscape around it is beautiful or unique. But then


Just out of curiousity what do you consider a landscape and what will you be judging high?


Land, fields, streams, waterfalls, mountains,valleys, lakes, housing such as subdivision from above them, cities, anything in the world around us that we see in life or in our travels - that are taken from a distance, maybe. I guess the key is that we can see. I don't really know how to explain it any better. Don't get me wrong I especially love sunsets and sunrises and they are so beautiful and emotion evoking. I just don't think, me personally, that was the intention. A landscape could be included in a variety of challenges, but also would diffently not fit in a lot. I hope this helps you understand what I meant by my comment. It was not meant to be sarcastic or start up sarcasm. It was just my opinion and that is all. Sorry it took me so long to get back. Becky

Message edited by author 2003-01-09 10:58:49.
01/08/2003 09:15:31 AM · #18
You're vengeful Jacko.

Landscapes around here consist of a horizon of buildings, telephone poles, signs, etc. All around it's flat, inside and outside the city. Wouldn't mind having some pretty snow scenes to photograph.


Originally posted by Jacko:

It would be fun to penalize people who live in cities for once, ie. cityscapes, since us folks who live in the boonies usually don't have as many opportunities, ie. photojournalism, candid shots, etc as people living in the cities. However, I will not venture any "mark downs" at this time. I will judge each shot individually. Good luck to all.


Message edited by author 2003-01-08 10:03:51.
01/08/2003 09:12:06 AM · #19
One of my neighbor's "formal" garden might qualify as "landscaped..."
01/08/2003 08:51:03 AM · #20
Originally posted by magnetic9999:

because time is so short and opportunities so sparse, i will probably be creating a 'landscape' to shoot in the 'studio', using aquarium gravel and some artificial christmas tree branches.

i hope no one notices :-D


Also you could spraypaint crumpled newspaper for rocks and boulders.Then make a small lightbulb into the sun and cotton balls for clouds.
Great idea Mag!! :)
LOL

Message edited by author 2003-01-08 08:57:19.
01/08/2003 08:38:24 AM · #21
because time is so short and opportunities so sparse, i will probably be creating a 'landscape' to shoot in the 'studio', using aquarium gravel and some artificial christmas tree branches.

i hope no one notices :-D
01/08/2003 07:30:16 AM · #22
Well im in a situation where its summer here and i have scenery everywhere (Im in New Zealand) but the problem remains that looking at past senery shots a lot of them contain great sunsets.

Im certainly new at scenery shots (mainly profile)and it seems hard to catch a good sunset so someone please inform me what kind of scenery is considered as good?

Message edited by author 2003-01-08 07:31:32.
01/08/2003 07:08:19 AM · #23
It would be fun to penalize people who live in cities for once, ie. cityscapes, since us folks who live in the boonies usually don't have as many opportunities, ie. photojournalism, candid shots, etc as people living in the cities. However, I will not venture any "mark downs" at this time. I will judge each shot individually. Good luck to all.
01/08/2003 07:02:59 AM · #24
Originally posted by JamieWillmott:

Would a cityscape count and/or be marked down because its not mountains and trees, etc?


I won't be marking down cityscapes because some people live miles from trees and mountains.
01/08/2003 07:00:36 AM · #25
This was copied from Photocourses.com-

" Landscape images may "present" themselves; that gift may come from a happy coincidence of sky, light, time of day, or the viewpoint offered by the road or trail. However, evoking a true sense of place usually demands patience, applied technique and a willingness to "feel out" an area prior to photographing."

Sky and atmosphere are a very big part of landscape photography.


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