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07/21/2009 10:05:42 AM · #1
I've given up on my cheap Cactus remotes to fire my off camera flashes. (and the Canon brand just seems like highway robbery to me)

I've discovered it's easier to mold a piece of tinfoil around my pop-up flash and direct its light to one of my flashes to trigger it. Totally reliable at 1/250sec, as compared to the hit & miss cactus trigger even at 1/100sec. But the tinfoil method might be awkward for hand-held use.

I used the tinfoil method for these water drop shots.

I found something called an "IR Panel", about $12 for some Nikon models, which is just a plastic doodad that mounts into the hot shoe and hangs a panel in front of the popped up flash and allows only the IR light through to trigger flashes.


Does anybody know if there's something similar I can do with my 40D?

I'd like to find an IR ping-pong ball to jam over my pop-up. I think that would be more elegant than hanging a little flappy panel in front.

Message edited by author 2009-07-21 10:13:17.
07/21/2009 10:23:00 AM · #2
The 40d doesn't have the option to only fire the pre-flash? I know my nikon does.
07/21/2009 11:19:12 AM · #3
Originally posted by ajdelaware:

The 40d doesn't have the option to only fire the pre-flash? I know my nikon does.

I don't even know what the heck that is. A pre-focusing blast of IR?... as comes out of my external flashes when I have one mounted? My pop-up seems to strobe white light to pre-focus if needed.
07/21/2009 11:30:03 AM · #4
The panel you are looking at are for Nikon's CLS. when using CLS for close ups or wide apertures with the pop up flash sometimes creates a catch or glare even when set to master only.
That same device MIGHT work for you, but shouldn't you try sync cords first?
07/21/2009 04:27:09 PM · #5
Originally posted by ben4345:

The panel you are looking at are for Nikon's CLS. when using CLS for close ups or wide apertures with the pop up flash sometimes creates a catch or glare even when set to master only.
That same device MIGHT work for you, but shouldn't you try sync cords first?

Wires tether my spirits. By that, I mean my whiskey snifter is too likely to get spilled with wires. But actually, I really prefer less wires.
07/22/2009 05:11:03 PM · #6
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by ben4345:

The panel you are looking at are for Nikon's CLS. when using CLS for close ups or wide apertures with the pop up flash sometimes creates a catch or glare even when set to master only.
That same device MIGHT work for you, but shouldn't you try sync cords first?

Wires tether my spirits. By that, I mean my whiskey snifter is too likely to get spilled with wires. But actually, I really prefer less wires.


we'll, sorry to say then, all I know of for canon users is either pocket wizards or radio poppers.
You can also use a 580 ex2 as a master (or in canons terms "pilot"), and use a another for a slave.

07/22/2009 06:48:23 PM · #7
Originally posted by ben4345:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by ben4345:

The panel you are looking at are for Nikon's CLS. when using CLS for close ups or wide apertures with the pop up flash sometimes creates a catch or glare even when set to master only.
That same device MIGHT work for you, but shouldn't you try sync cords first?

Wires tether my spirits. By that, I mean my whiskey snifter is too likely to get spilled with wires. But actually, I really prefer less wires.


we'll, sorry to say then, all I know of for canon users is either pocket wizards or radio poppers.
You can also use a 580 ex2 as a master (or in canons terms "pilot"), and use a another for a slave.

I've only got a pair of Sigmas, which need light to trigger. I guess I'll stick with my tin-foil method for now.
Thanks for the replies, though!
07/22/2009 07:19:55 PM · #8
Apparently "If you lay three layers of Congo Blue on one layer of Primary Red, you form an opaque black filter which is very transparent to IR". Have you got some Lee sample bundles lying around?

eta; source with ideas for some other funky IR stuff

Message edited by author 2009-07-22 19:24:26.
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