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06/02/2004 10:37:11 AM · #1 |
how many pics do you think we will see depicting screen shots of people refreshing thier DPC scores?
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06/02/2004 10:40:34 AM · #2 |
I think people will be more creative than that So I say none!
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06/06/2004 12:38:17 PM · #3 |
| Everyone always jokes about the challenges that could, in some way, relate to the site. It's definitely funny, but I agree with the person above..I hope people get really creative with this one :) |
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06/06/2004 01:27:05 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by alisasaur:
Everyone always jokes about the challenges that could, in some way, relate to the site. It's definitely funny, but I agree with the person above..I hope people get really creative with this one :) |
Originally posted by alisasaur:
Do people not know how to meet the challenge? that's all i have to say. |
Which approach should we take, creative interpretation, or straight-on meet the challenge in the most obvious way possible? |
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06/06/2004 03:01:49 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by alisasaur:
Everyone always jokes about the challenges that could, in some way, relate to the site. It's definitely funny, but I agree with the person above..I hope people get really creative with this one :) |
Originally posted by alisasaur:
Do people not know how to meet the challenge? that's all i have to say. |
Which approach should we take, creative interpretation, or straight-on meet the challenge in the most obvious way possible? |
There's a huge difference between being creative and not meeting the challenge. For example, posting a picture of something that has nothing to do with sports does not meet the challenge. However, being creative in ways that do meet the challenge is the way to go. |
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06/06/2004 03:14:23 PM · #6 |
| I've just found that some of the "creative" ways of meeting the challenge are (unfairly) perceived "not meeting the challenge," at least within the time the typical voter looks at the picture. I can find a valid challenge connection for almost every entry I see here ... you're welcome to email me a list of a few you think don't and I'll give you my take on them. |
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06/06/2004 03:19:52 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
I've just found that some of the "creative" ways of meeting the challenge are (unfairly) perceived "not meeting the challenge," at least within the time the typical voter looks at the picture. I can find a valid challenge connection for almost every entry I see here ... you're welcome to email me a list of a few you think don't and I'll give you my take on them. |
Well, let's see here.
Most commonly, I'm referring to the pictures that actually have players in them. The challenge is "Team sports without the players." I see feet, legs, etc. and that is part of a player. I don't have time to make a huge list for you.
Message edited by author 2004-06-06 15:20:24. |
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06/06/2004 03:39:44 PM · #8 |
| No, if your interpretation of the prohibition on players includes any and all body parts, then I can see where that might put them in the "Does not ..." column for you. :) |
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06/06/2004 03:50:40 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
No, if your interpretation of the prohibition on players includes any and all body parts, then I can see where that might put them in the "Does not ..." column for you. :) |
Then how about the two photos I saw that actually showed a couple of entire human players? I would say that there is no way you can interpret that as meeting the challenge. |
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06/07/2004 10:00:59 PM · #10 |
| I just entered a challenge for the very first time :) Unfortunately it's not really creative in any way, but I'm pretty proud of myself! now to hope i don't get massacred when voting starts.. eek.... |
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06/07/2004 11:35:51 PM · #11 |
I wonder how many dogs/cat/animals we will see "waiting" for a treat or flowers "waiting" for a bee?
As for the team sport without the players, I to considered that if any part of the player was in the shot, it lost points with me.
Deannda
The description was pretty clear on that on to me :) |
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06/07/2004 11:43:47 PM · #12 |
| Mine is way out there....its so far out there that I may just be "waiting" for the high scores to roll in. :) |
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06/09/2004 04:22:00 AM · #13 |
well, i went through 'em all...
in my realm of reality, waiting does not include movement or participating in some other activity. You can wait while fishing, but casting a rod is not waiting - it's doing.
waiting is not something an inanimate object does, typically.
a bench does not wait, it just IS. people CAN be waiting, but it's something you see in their faces and body language, the expression just right, not showing anxiety or frustration or happiness... waiting is a state of stillness, but more.
plants do not wait to grow, be pollenated, etc. animals/insects CAN wait, but a straight-up shot of a pet doesn't necessarily convey waiting. throw some context in and it does.
just my 2 cents. and my first submission... because i looked through my week's shots and said "hey! this looks like waiting" :) |
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06/09/2004 04:24:53 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by animes2k:
well, i went through 'em all...
in my realm of reality, waiting does not include movement or participating in some other activity. You can wait while fishing, but casting a rod is not waiting - it's doing.
waiting is not something an inanimate object does, typically.
a bench does not wait, it just IS. people CAN be waiting, but it's something you see in their faces and body language, the expression just right, not showing anxiety or frustration or happiness... waiting is a state of stillness, but more.
plants do not wait to grow, be pollenated, etc. animals/insects CAN wait, but a straight-up shot of a pet doesn't necessarily convey waiting. throw some context in and it does.
just my 2 cents. and my first submission... because i looked through my week's shots and said "hey! this looks like waiting" :) |
I completely agree.
I haven't gone through very many, but, only about 10% so far convey waiting to me. More once I read the title, but the title shouldn't be the only thing to make the photo fit the theme.
Message edited by author 2004-06-09 05:09:58. |
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06/09/2004 05:07:08 AM · #15 |
If, for instance, someone had bought a new camera, and the shop person put it on a shelf until the customer came to collect it, and you went in and asked to buy it, and the shop person refused, and you said why not? it's just there, and they said 'it's waiting to be collected', do you think that shop person would be mis-using English?
Inanimate objects can't wait?! I can't express my despair at such statements.
How about the phrase 'supper was waiting for them when they got home'? Or do you only eat living, animate things?
It isn't a purely transitive verb.
and what about the conveyance of mood, of impression, of idea, of concept?
Shall we have challenges that run along the lines of 'take a photo of a perfectly spherical stone, of diameter 26.2mm, perfectly centred atop a plinth of un-planed beechwood precisely 45mm in width and depth, and 82mm in height, against a precisely grey (i.e. all RGB channels exactly equal) background, lit with one 60W (at 240V) opal lamp (bayonet fitting), and with the use of one reflector card of precsely A3 size. You may place the camera, light and reflector as you see fit.'?
Ed
edited for clarity
Message edited by author 2004-06-09 05:08:31.
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06/09/2004 05:14:31 AM · #16 |
I agree with this too, but I think the photo needs to show waiting on its own. So far (and I've only gone through 20) 2 of the photos showed waiting without the title.
The rest of them showed waiting with the title, but I think some I just wasn't buying. Namely ones where it was a person or thing "waiting for" something where it wasn't apparent they were actually waiting. |
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06/09/2004 05:50:45 AM · #17 |
| I'm though about 150 or so photo's. Maybe they should look into renaming the challenge to "Reaching". |
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06/09/2004 06:55:17 AM · #18 |
i want to know why most of the titles start with 'waiting'
like maybe it was so far removed from the challenge people wouldnt get
it???????
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06/09/2004 07:00:06 AM · #19 |
i have to say that pictures that do not fit the challeng in my opinion are just that. My opinion, i score them lower, more on technical than content.
Sometimes people don't get the relevence. HABITS with pictures of nuns were misinterpreted, however i thought those photos were great. DDOF was completely misunderstood by some photogs, both in submissions as well as in some comments i received.
I think you just have to judge according to how you feel about a photo.
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06/09/2004 07:55:30 AM · #20 |
Sometimes the title does help one interpret the photographers intent. A good example is the current yellow winner of team sports. Since boxing is technically an individual sport a pair of boxing gloves would not fit the challenge. However the title lets one know they represent an olympic team. Titles often make one say ahaaaa, ok now I understand.
Message edited by author 2004-06-09 07:57:36. |
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06/09/2004 08:55:31 AM · #21 |
I just love the comments on this site...I wish everyone had opened minds.... An example is team sports and the picture of the Frisbee. I noticed several comments about the Frisbee photo that Will Koffel submitted and some said it not a team sport. Well ultimate is very much a team sport as I learned from my son who plays. You can run a search on ultimate and see learn about it. It's great fun to watch.
I loved the picture of the Frisbee, in fact I have a special addition GA Tech Tribe Ultimate Frisbee that was given to me as a gift and thought about taking a picture of it for that challenge but was unable to because of time restraints.
For all of those who are sharing new ideas thank you so much. I research some of the things I see and read on this site and it keeps me from being so closed-minded. Where would we be today if some people did not dare to be different?
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06/09/2004 01:46:22 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by e301:
If, for instance, someone had bought a new camera, and the shop person put it on a shelf until the customer came to collect it, 'it's waiting to be collected', do you think that shop person would be mis-using English?
Inanimate objects can't wait?! I can't express my despair at such statements.
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Ed, I appreciate your take on this and understand (and embrace) the constant debate about creative interpretation of challenge topics, but the exacting technical example was reaching... Yes, it's accepted English that an item (or dinner, etc) can be waiting for someone...
But if you saw a plate of food sitting on a table, would you KNOW that it was waiting?
What would tell you that the lens you see on the shelf was waiting to be picked up?
The salesman.
My point is that, visually, these types of photos do not convey a feeling of waiting. Perhaps with lighting and the inclusion of another subject, they CAN convey that, but I can't think of one I saw that does - to me.
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06/11/2004 02:17:07 PM · #23 |
I just wanted to jump in here and say thank you to all who commented on my "Waiting" photo with the tilted horizon! This is the main reason why I like this sight so much, the willingness of others to help you become a better photographer. I salute you!
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