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05/31/2004 01:36:21 AM · #1
After seeing the shot when I flipped through the newly posted shots for Unusual Viewpoint, I was very intrigued. The bench shot that was taken that happened to win the 3rd place ribbon looked very similar to a shot that I took back in august 2003 and posted up for the Desolation contest. The shot was taken from the same exact angle. Though I am happy for the winner, I found it very bothersome to see such a similar shot. After reading through most of the comments on the picture about how original the shot was, i was bothered even more. I know it was not the same exact shot but the similarities are very great in my mind.

Again I congratulate the 3rd place winner; it is a great angle as I myself enjoyed shooting it. I guess all I can hope for is more publicity on my shot, from someone succeeding a bit further, on one similiar to one of my better shots.

For comparison:
My image:

3rd Place Ribbon Winner


Message edited by author 2004-05-31 01:37:43.
05/31/2004 01:43:07 AM · #2
It's very possible she never saw your shot, as she's only been here a short while. If this happened to me, my response would be "great minds think alike!"
No conceit in my family... I got it all! :)
05/31/2004 01:44:35 AM · #3
It's also unlikely that you were the first person to ever shoot a bench with round whatever they are either. It happens, small world etc.
05/31/2004 01:44:53 AM · #4
I myself took a few similar shots with dissimilar benches; I didn't like any of them well enough to enter them, but it may simply be that this idea is the work of genius!
05/31/2004 01:48:28 AM · #5
If it's coincidence, it wouldn't be the most amazing one we've seen around here. After this picture won the blue ribbon in the Speed challenge, someone found almost the identical shot at photoSIG, which kicked off a thread about it possibly being "misappropriated". Turned out two people just happened to take the same picture at almost the same moment from very near each other. The point being, it is possible that Daisy77 just happened to come up with this idea on her own - its not that big a stretch when you're looking for an "unusual viewpoint". But I do agree, the resemblence is definitely striking, particularly in the line of the seat slats.
05/31/2004 05:09:31 AM · #6
If people are going to have a problem with others taking similar or even almost identical shots as their own, then we're going to have to ban any more macros of dandelions, shots of seagulls flying, and definitely any motocross bikes in mid-air. I thoroughly intend to try and emulate every single shot I have in my favorites list so that I can learn how the people I admire most on this site were able to capture such amazing images. I don't see a thing wrong with that.

You should be happy about this picture. From what I understand, it's the sincerest form of flattery. ;-)
05/31/2004 05:35:04 AM · #7
You might want to check out this recent thread, and search the forums for several other similar ones.
//dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=90004
05/31/2004 10:34:17 AM · #8
My entry in the "Round" challenge:



Was mine an inspiration for your "Desolation" challenge entry?

Message edited by author 2004-05-31 10:35:02.
05/31/2004 11:08:50 AM · #9
I think it's more important for you to see where the dissimilarities are between your shots and why yours didn't do as well. While they germ from the same idea, they were carried out very differently from the toning/coloring to distractions to how effective is the depth perspective to the overall general look. No reason to feel badly here, your shot did well in that August challenge but, imo, needed improvement.
05/31/2004 11:09:13 AM · #10
After looking at many photos on the web, I noticed that there are several shots of people taking photos looking up into the top of capitol buildings. When I first saw the first one, I thought it was very stunning. But after seeing so many, I did not think that they were quite so original or interesting. I think that it is difficult to take an original shot that someone hasn't already taken (or at least, thought of), no matter how original you thought it was at first. But, that does not mean we should stop trying! I agree with the "Great Minds Think Alike!" comment, and think that I would stick with that!

-Danielle
05/31/2004 11:23:46 AM · #11
Here's a few of them:

here's one

here's Gordon's

here's toocool's

These actually look different, but I did see three in a row that were almost identical, of different state capitols.

-Danielle

Message edited by author 2004-05-31 11:26:21.
05/31/2004 11:35:07 AM · #12
Originally posted by dccloss:

Here's a few of them:

here's one

here's Gordon's

here's toocool's

These actually look different, but I did see three in a row that were almost identical, of different state capitols.

-Danielle


You forgot the newest one //www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=77871
05/31/2004 01:12:41 PM · #13
Originally posted by heida:

Originally posted by dccloss:

Here's a few of them:

here's one

here's Gordon's

here's toocool's

These actually look different, but I did see three in a row that were almost identical, of different state capitols.

-Danielle


You forgot the newest one //www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=77871


Thanks!

-Danielle
05/31/2004 07:15:23 PM · #14
Originally posted by dccloss:

Here's a few of them:

here's one

here's Gordon's

here's toocool's

These actually look different, but I did see three in a row that were almost identical, of different state capitols.

-Danielle


This just further supports the point not to worry at all if someone else takes a photo similar to yours. Every single person who visits Austin takes a picture of the Capital rotunda. I'm pretty sure it's a law or something. ;-)
05/31/2004 07:28:14 PM · #15
i suppose i otter weigh in on this post.

david, i never saw your photo of the park benches that you entered into the desolation challenge. this shot was inspired by a shot that i took last november while walking home from work in the rain (i like the first one better, in fact):



and although i think i might be the cleverest dang gal in all of new york city, i am CERTAIN that i am not the only one who has been inspired to stare down the barrel of this bench.

wasn't there a similar thread in here about an art installation in the UK (a bunch of phone boxes toppling over)?

thanks to all who supported me (and to DPC for the mighty honor)! best regards,

Message edited by author 2004-05-31 19:42:03.
05/31/2004 07:31:14 PM · #16
The Luminous Landscape's essay on Done That offers some wisdom.

'We're all familiar with the phrase, "Been there, done that". It is often pronounced by the world-weary and self-proclaimed sophisticates who feel that there's nothing new under the sun.'

2 counter arguments are offered. Whereas the 1st is certainly valid;

'What rubbish!

This reminds me of the true story of the British commissioner of patents in the late 19th century who advised the government that the Patent Office should be soon closed because just about everything that could be invented already had been.'


The 2nd is far closer to the real spirit of amateur photography and probably sums up the feeling for a lot of learners at DPC;

'But Not By Me!'
05/31/2004 08:20:15 PM · #17
Originally posted by alternarule:


For comparison:
My image:

3rd Place Ribbon Winner


It is not the least bit surprising that two people taking different pictures at different times in a New York City park (that apparently all have the same type of park benches) would take similar pictures of them. The large circular arm rests practically invite the photographer to take them from this angle.

Look at it this way: Great minds think along similar lines.

Message edited by author 2004-06-01 12:18:27.
05/31/2004 08:21:31 PM · #18
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, you know... ;o)


05/31/2004 08:25:50 PM · #19
Originally posted by alternarule:


For comparison:
My image:

3rd Place Ribbon Winner


It is not the least bit surprising that two people taking different pictures at different times in a New York City park (that apparently all have the same type of park benches) would take similar pictures of them. The large circlular arm rests practically invite the photographer to take them from this angle.

Look at it this way: Great minds think along similar lines.


's what i'm talking about. and, although i agree that imitation is flattering, i did not imitate...it's just that i saw the same thing in a different park at a different time.

Message edited by author 2004-05-31 20:29:37.
05/31/2004 09:34:41 PM · #20


Margaret,

I agree that first one is a better shot. They are both great shots, and I guess it shouldn't have bothered me to see a similar picture of something that is so prominent in NYC. You should post these up on dpcprints, I'm sure you could sell a few. Congrats on the ribbon, you do deserve it. I'm kinda interested in seeing more shots of that bench in different seasons, would make a great montage. I would try it myself, but I've left my life in NYC for the windy city.


06/01/2004 09:36:56 AM · #21
interesting that the one i took with the olympus (c4040z) seems better because of the deeper DOF...might want to bring the old guy out for the new challenge.

thanks david, best of luck in chi-town.
06/01/2004 12:21:04 PM · #22
Originally posted by daisy77:

interesting that the one i took with the olympus (c4040z) seems better because of the deeper DOF...might want to bring the old guy out for the new challenge.

thanks david, best of luck in chi-town.


Either that or setting the f/stop a setting or two higher with the new camera. :)
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