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05/26/2004 01:29:18 AM · #1 |
Wowsers!
What a batch of good pictures. I am definately taking my time to
grade these babies. So many of them are so good!
Everybody that entered....kudos...pat yourselves on the back. |
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05/26/2004 01:37:03 AM · #2 |
| I agree. I finally get a shot that I think really has some POP to it...some WOW...and then I see that this contest has really raised the bar! Oh, man! Some good stuff out there... |
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05/26/2004 01:39:32 AM · #3 |
I totally agree! I thought they looked pretty good going through the thumbnails, then when I actually started opening up and voting, wow!
Great shots are really coming out of the woodwork on this one. I thought mine might do fairly well for once, but I think I'll still be just chasing the field again. Great job everbuddy!!! Hey, I got a good idea for a challenge..."Everybody submit a really bad photo except for Me!"....hehehehehehe :-)
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05/26/2004 01:39:50 AM · #4 |
To me multiple light source picture must show multiple light... not any pictures take with more that one light !....
If it was that (the challenge) ANY of my picture can be there, because i use 3 flash and about 5 reflectors all the time.... that not make the point !
The best picture MUST tell multiple light event if the title of the challenge is hidden to somebody that dont know what we try to archive here...
And sorry to argue with you, but it is the biggest bunch of nonsense picture i have seen from a long time... if you compare to member challenge, the idea and the realisation is perfect almost 90% of the time...
In the open challenge, we have to read the title of the challenge, title of the picture, look carefully... and some time you see the point.... that make no sense !...
Bravo to those who can show a grest idea AND a great picture that it is self explaining !.... i dont think mine will do the to 10 this time... but hey there is another challenge that is just starting yet... !
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sorry for the typos, i am french !
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05/26/2004 01:45:54 AM · #5 |
| I think the fotos are not that great! And i aggree with menardmam that its a multiple light source and there are fotos just with one light! Some are really great but there are many that i really don't like and i think it goes a little of the challenge. But anyway its just my opinion! |
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05/26/2004 01:48:41 AM · #6 |
Looking at the shadows you know how many lights were used.
Edit : I don't have a picture in the challenge so it really doesn't matter, but c'mon.
Message edited by author 2004-05-26 01:50:53. |
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05/26/2004 01:51:51 AM · #7 |
But, I did have multiple light sources, and a good photo, and look where I am at!
Votes: 11
Avg Vote: 4.9091
Comments: 0
Updated: 05/26/04 01:00 am
Sucks to be me!
-Danielle
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05/26/2004 02:03:43 AM · #8 |
Menardmam:
I am so pleased you started your posting with the words "To Me".
It is subjective, and..yes there are a few pictures where multiple sources of light are not so obvious........BUT "To Me"....the majority are good photos!
There will be mixed viewpoints on this challenge. No right, no wrong.....just different interpretations - some of which have been translated into excellent photos. Let's judge them fairly.
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05/26/2004 02:07:01 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by bongo:
Wowsers!
What a batch of good pictures. I am definately taking my time to
grade these babies. So many of them are so good!
Everybody that entered....kudos...pat yourselves on the back. |
Absolutely! I've only perused the thumbnails so far, but I saw a lot of good stuff there. I look forward to voting on this one. I just wish that I had had time to create an entry.
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05/26/2004 02:21:10 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by menardmam:
To me multiple light source picture must show multiple light... not any pictures take with more that one light !....
If it was that (the challenge) ANY of my picture can be there, because i use 3 flash and about 5 reflectors all the time.... that not make the point !
The best picture MUST tell multiple light event if the title of the challenge is hidden to somebody that dont know what we try to archive here...
And sorry to argue with you, but it is the biggest bunch of nonsense picture i have seen from a long time... if you compare to member challenge, the idea and the realisation is perfect almost 90% of the time...
In the open challenge, we have to read the title of the challenge, title of the picture, look carefully... and some time you see the point.... that make no sense !...
Bravo to those who can show a grest idea AND a great picture that it is self explaining !.... i dont think mine will do the to 10 this time... but hey there is another challenge that is just starting yet... !
:-)
sorry for the typos, i am french ! |
Sorry, but I have to state my differing opinion with a couple of your points. First of all, in your opening statement, "To me...", that is just it, to you, it is perspective, 200 plus people are going to have many different perspectives on the title, even if you had a subject of "Take a picture of a blue car parked in front of a red house", very precise, yet you would still get many different takes on it. I agree, some are just not going to seem to fit, but I think you need to be a little subjective. I have been trying hard to get that through my own head. Plus, you say "not any pictures taken with more than one light", well, "multiple" is pretty much more than one. I think even the same light, coming from different directions, creating shadows etc. is multiple, showing a dozen different lights is also multiple. 3 flash and 5 reflectors is also multiple.
Also, I feel comparing the open to the member challenges is like comparing the minor leagues to the majors. They are a different class. I would expect and hope the members to be a little more advanced. Plus they can do a lot more in editing, which surely makes a difference. There are mostly amateurs and people new to photography here that want the chance to share their efforts and get feedback and try to learn something and have some fun. There is a wide range of talent, and it seems that beginners through pros are encouraged to participate. I don't think you need to bash everybody. If you're so far above us or want to see pro results only, then go find an all pro site.
Read the challenge title, read the photo title, look carefully, take time to see the point...? This makes perfect sense to me. I like a thought provoking photo. On occasion, taking the time and looking and thinking, I do see the point of a technically good shot that at first glance might look like it deserves the old "Doesn't fit challenge". I think it only fair to give a shot careful consideration if you are going to take on the task of judging it.
I agree, a photo should be expressive, I've argued that and similar points before, and yes, a "Great" photo has a great idea and is technically great, but not all of us have achieved "greatness" yet, but we're working on it.
Oh, and don't worry about the typos, nobody is perfect. :-)
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05/26/2004 02:30:23 AM · #11 |
"...There are mostly amateurs and people new to photography here that want the chance to share their efforts and get feedback and try to learn something and have some fun. There is a wide range of talent, and it seems that beginners through pros are encouraged to participate. I don't think you need to bash everybody..."
Thank You for sticking up for me and other beginners that enter these competitions. I come here for knowledge and critique, not to have my photographs called nonsense. I am definitely Minor league and I know it, or else I would join and enter the member challenges. Give us a break... we're learning..
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05/26/2004 02:44:59 AM · #12 |
| Sorry for been a little fast in stating my opinion, i have already finish voting on ever foto and surely i found really great great fotos! Kepp it up all you people! |
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05/26/2004 02:49:43 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by faidoi:
Looking at the shadows you know how many lights were used.
Edit : I don't have a picture in the challenge so it really doesn't matter, but c'mon. |
Not necessarily true - in my own feeble attempt it was my intention to position the light sources and camera in such a way to keep the number of shadows to a minimum - a final crop got pretty much got rid of most of them... |
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05/26/2004 02:57:31 AM · #14 |
One comment left on my image says only one light is showing.
But, It was backlit with a torch, daylight, sunlight shows highlights and shadows, doesn't that all count for something it is muliple light or it would be totally flat looking wouldn't it? |
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05/26/2004 03:35:33 AM · #15 |
I've shot what was considered to be some of my best work thus far and I only sit at 4.4...
I just browsed the thumbnails and more than half the pictures there are like mine, I don't get it. Things around here are really starting to piss me off. Anyone else feel this way? Like they are being cheated or something...
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05/26/2004 05:47:25 AM · #16 |
I've voted and commented on 7 so far. 7 5 4 4 3 3 2 - only two of those images get near using the available bandwidth or size. And that 7 is charitable, too. Is this just a freak selection or am I going to have to sit through 90% of the stuff being rubbish? Certainly seeen nothing to agree with the 'wowsa' comment so far.
Ed
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05/26/2004 05:55:45 AM · #17 |
There are some really great shots there I agree ...
But I've found some that haven't even pretended to make the slightest effort to try and meet the challenge, regardless of the usual "yes, but if you think outside the box a puppy does meet the TAKE A PHOTO OF A DUCK challenge because ......" *yawn*
Sorry, but a snapshot of an animal outside in broad daylight, and no additional light at all, really is pointless in a challenge like this.
I know there are many many times when a photo may somehow meet the challenge in the photographers eyes, but gee, come on.
And for any of the "it meets the challenge but you don't understand the artist crowd" ..... I'll challenge you to realistically match several of these ones to the challenge.... and no, stars in the sky during the day do not coult as multiple light sources!
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05/26/2004 05:56:22 AM · #18 |
The next three have been two shots drastically under the limit, to their own detriment, and one obviously illegal one. What gives?
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05/26/2004 05:58:07 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by e301:
The next three have been two shots drastically under the limit, to their own detriment, and one obviously illegal one. What gives? |
If it's illegal, request a DQ, as one may not have already been requested on it.
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05/26/2004 06:05:01 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by e301:
The next three have been two shots drastically under the limit, to their own detriment, and one obviously illegal one. What gives? |
If the obviously illegal one is the one I am thinking about it is a real shame, as it is a stunning photo.
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05/26/2004 06:06:53 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by e301:
The next three have been two shots drastically under the limit, to their own detriment, and one obviously illegal one. What gives? |
When you say BW do you mean bytes or size of image?
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05/26/2004 06:07:54 AM · #22 |
I have Ben. And not the stunning photo (in my eyes at least). Though I may just have had that one come up :-)
That makes my first twelve votes average around 4 with two DQ requests. I am Nemesis, today.
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05/26/2004 06:09:36 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by bill_hk2002:
Originally posted by e301:
The next three have been two shots drastically under the limit, to their own detriment, and one obviously illegal one. What gives? |
When you say BW do you mean bytes or size of image? |
Often both, though there's one B&W where it's probably only a size of image thing.
Ed (waiting for the string of good stuff to show up)
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05/26/2004 06:14:59 AM · #24 |
Ed:
I agree that size of the image is a factor on some of these, but, I also think that if that is the issue you should leave a comment. I usually pick a size that looks good on my screen and then maximize the jpg compression bar in Photoshop. Sliding the bar 1 unit can cost a lot of bytes, so if I get marked off for that, I need to go learn more about compression.
So, if you vote low on an image for size, just be sure to leave a comment. It will help us all on the next challenge if people use larger images.
Bill M.
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05/26/2004 06:20:09 AM · #25 |
These days Bill, I comment on almost every vote I make. But I'm talking about images where maximum dimension is around 420 - 440 bytes - that's not using around 50% of available space, in purely pixel terms, which is too much to lose and keep detail information. Feels more like a trick to me: 'I can't make it look good at big size, but if I submit it small maybe they won't notice'.
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