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10/14/2009 04:44:11 AM · #1 |
Nikon has announced the new Nikon D3S , not with HD video recording capability and with an improved ISO performance.
Nikon D3S
Darn!! still at 12MP. I would have considered getting one if it was at 18MP
Message edited by author 2009-10-14 04:44:54. |
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10/14/2009 05:22:49 AM · #2 |
| I think upping the ISO sensitivity but keeping the MP the same is a good call. WOuld be interested to see samples of this cranked up to max ISO. |
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10/14/2009 05:55:07 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by Simms:
I think upping the ISO sensitivity but keeping the MP the same is a good call. WOuld be interested to see samples of this cranked up to max ISO. |
Same here.
D3s sample photos
Hate to admit it, but this is really the first time I am impressed on the IQ!
I wonder if the video has the jello effect....
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10/14/2009 07:17:40 AM · #4 |
| Why does that site say improved frame rate? The specs listed are the same as the D3 (9fps FX, 11 fps DX)... |
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10/14/2009 07:43:18 AM · #5 |
| Whoa! Price is a bit steep though. |
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10/14/2009 07:46:18 AM · #6 |
OK, mighty impressed at the high ISO shots - sure they are grainy, but more than usuable for wedding album sized prints.
That Bear shot is superb!
Hopefully this will give Canon a kick up the bum in regards to the 1d(s) mk4
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10/14/2009 07:48:12 AM · #7 |
ISO performance: ISO 12800 as standard, expandable to ISO equivalent of 102400 (Hi 3)
Nikon FX-format CMOS image sensor with 12.1 effective megapixels
Improved D-Movie function including High-Sensitivity Movie mode and flicker reduction function
Nikon’s Integrated Dust Reduction System including Image Sensor Cleaning function
Incorporates Nikon’s original EXPEED digital image processing
Active D-Lighting with bracketing for up to 5 frames
Picture Control: Standard, Vivid, Neutral and Monochrome (Landscape and Portrait can be downloaded from Nikon website)
Quick response with approx. 0.12 seconds start-up time and approx. 0.04 seconds shutter-release time lag
9-frames-per-second shooting rate in FX format, 11 fps in DX crop (CIPA Guidelines)
Nikon’s original Scene Recognition System, utilizing 1,005-pixel RGB sensor, for more accurate autofocus, auto exposure, i-TTL flash control and auto white balance
Multi-CAM 3500FX AF sensor module featuring 51 AF points
Viewfinder with approx. 100% frame coverage and approx. 0.7x magnification in FX format
Durable shutter unit proven by 300,000 cycles of testing on fully assembled camera
Intelligent power management that lets you shoot up to approx. 4,200 frames per charge (based on CIPA Standards)
Easy-to-access Live View modes with dedicated button
Quiet Shutter-release mode for nonintrusive shooting
High-definition (approx. 921k-dot), 170˚ viewing angle, 3-in. VGA LCD monitor with tempered glass |
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10/14/2009 07:50:07 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Simms:
I think upping the ISO sensitivity but keeping the MP the same is a good call. WOuld be interested to see samples of this cranked up to max ISO. |
I'm fine with the D700 and the size in particular for walking around, while trying not to attract too much attention but I think 14-16 MP would be perfect for me.
I crop away, often enough to use a little extra size but I have no desire to play around with massive RAW files either. |
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10/14/2009 10:38:51 AM · #9 |
| I wouldnt mind the increased ISO, however I'm very happy with the D700. I wonder if a D700s is coming next? |
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10/14/2009 12:39:53 PM · #10 |
Canon is so far behind at this point in the game, it's not even funny.
To those looking for more megapixels, consider:
This is a straight- PJ camera. 12 megapixels is easily enough for magazines and newspapers; noise is the issue when printing larger, not megapixels. I have personally printed dozens of images at 20" with 8.5mp and the noticeable difference is in noise levels, NOT resolution.
Canon is playing the megapixel game, Nikon is aiming at serious professionals. While it is true the original 5d beats the D3 in sharpness, the noise levels at common isos used for coverage of indoor events is unreal. I shot behind the scenes at a division 1 hockey game with the D3 last weekend and stayed at 6400 without worrying because I knew the images would easily cover the poster-sized output I needed.
To those worried about the price; have you used the D3? It was set at $5,500 when released. That camera is STILL worth that considering is has the best combination of image quality and speed out there, as well as the 2nd-best autofocus system. That combination places it as THE number 1 tool for photojournalism. Yeah, yeah, the 1d III is a better sports camera, nobody is debating that. But for all around photography, nothing beats the D3, except the D3s. I'm saying that, and I'm a Canon guy.
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10/14/2009 03:56:06 PM · #11 |
Big Pixels Equal Greater ISO Capabilities
The amazing low-light ability of the D3S, as well as its astounding image quality can be attributed in large part to the engineering behind the newly designed, Nikon original 12.1-megapixel FX-format CMOS sensor, which measures 36×23.9mm. While the pixel size and count that served the D3 were maintained to deliver the pinnacle of image quality, dynamic range, phenomenal tonal gradation and outstanding color, other aspects were engineered to add versatility through broader low-noise ISO sensitivity. Individual pixels measure a large 8.45 microns, which support enhanced sensitivity to light and other qualities leading to superior image fidelity. The D3S captures light and renders images in a way that no other Nikon camera has yet to achieve, with a higher signal-to-noise ratio and an unmatched dynamic range for both stills and HD video throughout its broadened ISO range.
Originally posted by andrewt:
Nikon has announced the new Nikon D3S , not with HD video recording capability and with an improved ISO performance.
Nikon D3S
Darn!! still at 12MP. I would have considered getting one if it was at 18MP |
Is better than the 18MP camera you wanted. Bigger pixels is better than more pixels
Message edited by author 2009-10-14 15:56:45. |
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10/14/2009 04:07:33 PM · #12 |
| BTW I so want this camera. |
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10/14/2009 04:19:37 PM · #13 |
I just hope they consider getting some Budget pro glass (f/4 lenses or lower class f2.8) and their primes, the new ones was suck. Need to come out with some Professional level primes!
12MP is perfect for me, I won't change that. I don't need to crop if I got the right lenses.
Message edited by author 2009-10-14 16:20:52.
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10/14/2009 07:37:08 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by ben4345:
I just hope they consider getting some Budget pro glass (f/4 lenses or lower class f2.8) and their primes, the new ones was suck. Need to come out with some Professional level primes!
12MP is perfect for me, I won't change that. I don't need to crop if I got the right lenses. |
That was the disapointment with the announcment today. One lens, and that was a DX macro lens. Come on... One guy over at Nikonrumors posted something about he had a feeling Nikon were saving something for after the next Canon release, probably to go like: "Yeah, fine equipment you got there, Canon. But look at THIS:" And WOILAH!!! Some sort of juicy upgrades. Would've been much more mindblowing had their announced the D3s and the new 70-200mm at the same day, released shortly after. |
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10/15/2009 07:52:48 AM · #15 |
It's a nice upgrade, and I might consider getting one to replace my D200 eventually, but then again I may just find a used D3 or D700 and save some money. I am rather disappointed with the D-Movie lack of options. Not having 1080p isn't that big of a deal as I convert all footage from the 5DmkII to 720p anyways. But I wish it had a longer shooting duration like the 5DmkII and some of the shooting options the new 7D offers. Being able to shoot 24fps, 30fps or 60fps is really nice to have and a 5 min limit just isn't long enough for shooting some scenes if you plan to use it for short film making.
BUT, I do understand that this camera is geared more to sports and PJ photogs. Maybe an upgraded D700 or the next gen D4 will offer what I desire. Until then, I'll stick to Canon for video and Nikon for stills. ;-) |
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10/15/2009 05:57:43 PM · #16 |
I heard the 5 minute shooting limit was to keep the taxes down overseas. In other countries aparently >5min video is classified as a video camera, and keeping the video at <5 minutes makes Nikon very affordable compared to canon.
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10/15/2009 07:35:00 PM · #17 |
Why does everyone think they're be a D4?
Japanese think the number 4 by itself is very bad luck. It'll be called D5, go ahead look it up.
BTW, be happy you got video at all, let alone live view. I am thinking we're just getting greedy now.
Message edited by author 2009-10-15 19:36:46.
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10/15/2009 07:41:51 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by ben4345:
Why does everyone think they're be a D4?
Japanese think the number 4 by itself is very bad luck. It'll be called D5, go ahead look it up.
BTW, be happy you got video at all, let alone live view. I am thinking we're just getting greedy now. |
you are right, Nikon would very likely skip the number 4. I m still dissapointed with the MP count. I understand noise performance will be sacrificed a little. Still with some of the new features & the super noise performance , I m thinking of upgrading myself.. |
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10/15/2009 08:29:18 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by ben4345:
Japanese think the number 4 by itself is very bad luck. It'll be called D5, go ahead look it up.
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One of their most popular cameras of all time was the F4/F4s etc. I don't think they allowed a little superstition to govern their choice of model numbers. If they skip 4 now I personally don't think that will be the reason. |
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10/15/2009 09:01:39 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by FireBird:
Originally posted by ben4345:
Japanese think the number 4 by itself is very bad luck. It'll be called D5, go ahead look it up.
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One of their most popular cameras of all time was the F4/F4s etc. I don't think they allowed a little superstition to govern their choice of model numbers. If they skip 4 now I personally don't think that will be the reason. |
If you do I would be more than happy to take that old useless D3 off your hands and save you the trouble of disposing of it ;) |
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10/15/2009 09:54:59 PM · #21 |
| Let me state for the record that I am 100% happy with Nikon keeping the D3s at 12.1mp's. |
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