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10/07/2009 08:30:24 AM · #1 |
What is considered Artificial Lighting?
Maybe this will help answer some questions. link
Artificial lighting is any lighting that is not sunlight.
Generally speaking, artificial lighting is lighting which is man made, such as fluorescent, tungsten, mercury vapor, sodium vapor, halogen, compact fluorescent, et cetera. It can be turned on and off at a flick of a switch.
There are also very special types of artificial light for specific purposes Such as infared heat lamps, ultraviolet lights for plant growth and tanning, et cetera.
In photography, different light sources have a different color temperature which can be compensated for with special filters or simulated with special lighting. A flash simulates the light of the sun for a fraction of a second.
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10/07/2009 08:38:11 AM · #2 |
| Glow-worms, fireflies, deep-sea fish that generate their own lights... I guess they wouldn't be called artificial, but they're not sunlight... ;-Þ |
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10/07/2009 09:27:27 AM · #3 |
| I instinctively think candle light is "natural" and wouldn't qualify as artificial lighting, though because candles are man-made the point may be arguable. |
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10/07/2009 09:42:48 AM · #4 |
| Whoah, whoah, whoah. Slowwwwww down there, professor. Can't run before you can walk. |
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10/07/2009 10:01:13 AM · #5 |
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10/07/2009 11:56:00 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:
Artificial lighting is any lighting that is not sunlight. |
Just to be contrarian, in *my* book if you were shooting outdoors in full sunlight and used a large scrim to diffuse the sunlight and a couple reflectors to redirect it, that would be artificial lighting; certainly more "artificial" than "natural", anyway.
R.
Message edited by author 2009-10-07 11:56:12. |
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10/07/2009 12:03:22 PM · #7 |
| i am taking a picture of a desk lamp or flashlight for this one, problem solved. |
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10/07/2009 12:24:47 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Pug-H:
Glow-worms, fireflies, deep-sea fish that generate their own lights... I guess they wouldn't be called artificial, but they're not sunlight... ;-Þ |
I assume natural phenomenon like lighting and the Northern Lights would be excluded, too?
But fire? Is fire "natural"? Would a candle or a campfire be considered artificial light? |
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10/07/2009 12:50:46 PM · #9 |
You might look at
Multiple Light Sources
Multiple Light Sources II
As well.
And if moonlight , candle light and bounced sunlight are going to be used as artificial lighting in your shot, prepare to be buried in a DNMC mudslide.
Message edited by author 2009-10-07 12:51:10. |
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10/07/2009 12:53:09 PM · #10 |
| So just to be clear, speedlights and monolight strobes definitely qualify right???? |
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10/07/2009 01:02:42 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
i am taking a picture of a desk lamp or flashlight for this one, problem solved. |
The challenge states, "Create a photo that uses artificial lighting as its subject(s) main light source..."
Unless your desklamp is lit by another artificial source, it would be a DNMC entry, IMHO.
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10/07/2009 01:25:20 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Challenge Details:
Create a photo that uses artificial lighting as its subject(s) main light source. Try and make it evident that it is artificial. |
Shoot indoors under flourescents and show us your green skin. :) |
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10/07/2009 01:50:28 PM · #13 |
Bump
So just to be clear, speedlights and monolight strobes definitely qualify right???? |
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10/07/2009 02:01:33 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by dmadden:
Bump
So just to be clear, speedlights and monolight strobes definitely qualify right???? |
I would say yes, as long as it is evident that the lighting is artificial.
This "evidence" is key to creating winning images for this challenge. A simple studio portrait may not be evident enough, so creativity has to take over. Maybe to the point of gimmickry, if you want to impress voters.
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10/07/2009 04:23:16 PM · #15 |
| I get it les thanks! I think this is going to be another confused voter challenge, will pass it up. |
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10/07/2009 05:06:14 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by dmadden:
Bump
So just to be clear, speedlights and monolight strobes definitely qualify right????
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
I would say yes, as long as it is evident that the lighting is artificial.
This "evidence" is key to creating winning images for this challenge. A simple studio portrait may not be evident enough, so creativity has to take over. Maybe to the point of gimmickry, if you want to impress voters.
Originally posted by dmadden:
I get it les thanks! I think this is going to be another confused voter challenge, will pass it up. |
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Keep in mind that this is simply my interpretation of what is DNMC or not. Others may probably will have varying opinions.
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10/08/2009 12:50:45 AM · #17 |
| back to the original question. how can there be such a thing as artificial light? |
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10/08/2009 01:45:20 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by briantammy:
back to the original question. how can there be such a thing as artificial light? |
You don't consider a flash or a light bulb artificial light?
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10/08/2009 01:52:26 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by briantammy:
back to the original question. how can there be such a thing as artificial light? |
I think I take your point. Is this what you're saying?
"How can 'light', any light, be 'artificial'? Light is light. It's a natural thing, so to speak. I can accept 'light from an artificial source', but there's nothing artificial about the light itself."
If that's what you're saying, it's an interesting thought :-)
R. |
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10/08/2009 02:43:54 AM · #20 |
Was actually meant to be a joke, Not serious!!!! However The desklamp can light itself, or I can use a flashlight and a mirror to reflect the light back onto it. Easy enough to do. And then it would mtc.
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
i am taking a picture of a desk lamp or flashlight for this one, problem solved. |
The challenge states, "Create a photo that uses artificial lighting as its subject(s) main light source..."
Unless your desklamp is lit by another artificial source, it would be a DNMC entry, IMHO. |
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10/09/2009 09:33:04 AM · #21 |
Temperature.... Source
1700 K ........ Match flame
1850 K ........ Candle flame
2700–3300 K ... Incandescent light bulb
3350 K ....... Studio "CP" light
3400 K ....... Studio lamps, photofloods, etc.
4100 K ....... Moonlight, xenon arc lamp
5000 K ....... Horizon daylight
5500–6000 K ... Typical daylight, electronic flash
6500 K ........ Daylight, overcast
9300 K ........ CRT screen
Would all temperatures except 5000K to 6500K be considered artificial?
Would taking a photo outside with WB set to tungsten count as artificial light?
Message edited by author 2009-10-09 09:38:06. |
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10/10/2009 01:01:12 PM · #22 |
| Are fireworks artificial or natural? |
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10/10/2009 01:46:03 PM · #23 |
Artificial light is an oxymoron. Light is light, no matter where it comes from.
I do understand the challenge description. That's why I am not planning to enter that challenge.
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10/10/2009 02:28:01 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by VitaminB:
Are fireworks artificial or natural? |
lol.
I'm thinking the literalists are going to crush the average score in this one. Just like in the low-key. "Oh, that light looks natural. Here, take this DNMC and a 1-vote".
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10/10/2009 02:33:23 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by david_c:
Originally posted by VitaminB:
Are fireworks artificial or natural? |
lol.
I'm thinking the literalists are going to crush the average score in this one. Just like in the low-key. "Oh, that light looks natural. Here, take this DNMC and a 1-vote". |
Thats what I am worried about.
It might be easier to say what is natural, as anything outside that list would be considering artificial:
Natural:
Sunlight
Moonlight
Phosphorescent organisms (Fireflies, jellyfish etc)
Lightning
I would even argue that candle light is artificial (man made). The light source is coming from a man made object. |
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