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05/12/2004 01:56:03 PM · #1
And each will get a comment as to why before the Opposite's challenge is done. They will be short and to the point because there are so many and time is short around here this week. :)

Deannda
05/12/2004 02:12:09 PM · #2
This is a very low-scoring challenge for everyone I think. I can't figure out WHY. I'm not sure if there are bitter people giving low scores just because they can, or if my image really sucks that bad! I was really proud of mine and can't figure out why it's scoring so low. I am trying to go back and leave comments on the ones I scored low last night. I have gotten alot of votes and only 4 comments. So we will see, there is still time for them to come back and comment.

Message edited by author 2004-05-12 14:13:24.
05/12/2004 02:16:11 PM · #3
Originally posted by ExoticChaos:

This is a very low-scoring challenge for everyone I think. I can't figure out WHY. I'm not sure if there are bitter people giving low scores just because they can, or if my image really sucks that bad! I was really proud of mine and can't figure out why it's scoring so low. I am trying to go back and leave comments on the ones I scored low last night. I have gotten alot of votes and only 4 comments. So we will see, there is still time for them to come back and comment.


I agree, I was really proud of mine as well, and it's scoring pretty low. I think some of the photos that people have taken are not really opposites. I'm starting to see that people have taken photos that clearly do not exhibit opposition, but the title does. I'm getting a bit sick of all the title games people play. I think sometimes pictures just need to speak for themselves.
05/12/2004 02:20:46 PM · #4
I did not enter this one. I had a feeling this would be a doozy.
05/12/2004 02:42:16 PM · #5
I think the quality of the shots are pretty bad. I think there is not much creativity in the opposites chosen. And as far as meeting topic via title, perhaps, it does meet the challenge 'in the photo' and the viewer just disagrees. I think often shots do speak for the themselves, but the viewer is not listening.
05/12/2004 02:50:31 PM · #6
I handed out some low scores this time as well.. haven't commented on any yet. I usually wait a couple of days and then go back through and make score adjustments and comments.

This is my own lowest score to date, so I expect a comment from you! ;)

Unfortunately, in addition to picking risky/vague opposites, I messed up on my title, too. :) Oh well, inspiration to do better next time. I still like my photo, regardless.
05/12/2004 02:55:06 PM · #7
Average score for me and 1 comment. It's suffering from not-bad-not-good-I-don't-know-what-to-say reaction from voters.
05/12/2004 02:58:11 PM · #8
Votes: 88
Avg Vote: 5.0000
Comments: 6

The comments have all been positive and helpful, except for one that was kind of nasty/snippy. Oh, well!!! Better luck next time for all of us, I guess.
05/12/2004 03:28:31 PM · #9
I believe that an artistic photograph can be greatly enhanced by its title. Without the title the frame of mind the photographer was in and or the message the photographer wishes to convey can be easily lost.

In many ways a title can make or break an image.

Consider an image of a man in chains...

Titling the image "Inner Struggle", one could come away with the notion that we wrap ourselves up and chain ourselves down through tough decisions that may come to our lives.

Titling the image "Slavery", one could come away with the sense of a brutal oppresion that needs to be ended for all of time.

In my opinion, a picture is worth a thousand or more words, but most of those words might be far removed from what the artist wishes to convery and could cloud over or remove the intent from the image.

I have one really good example of this with a not so good shot I took at a recent family get together...

If I can make the time I will see what I can do about whipping it up and posting two versions of it with differing titles, maybe even a slightly different cropping as well. The stark differences in the image I am thinking about are pretty interesting.
05/12/2004 03:38:15 PM · #10
I must be in the minority, but I think there are quite a few nice pictures in the opposites challenge. I gave 3 10's. Also, I didn't give nearly as many low scores as you Neuferland - I went to count them just now to see how it compared. I gave no 2's; 38 3's and 74 4's. That's only 112 under 5 compared to your 160 under 5.

My own entry is doing poorly but I really like it myself so don't really mind. Only have 1 comment so don't really know why it's doing so badly.
05/12/2004 03:57:10 PM · #11
Originally posted by ellamay:

I think often shots do speak for the themselves, but the viewer is not listening.

Sometimes they just might not like the message.
05/12/2004 04:03:52 PM · #12
I only have 1 comment! And just a short, "blurry" type one at that. I do hope that some people will go back and comment later on, I know I will. So far I've gone through and commented on about 20 this morning, and hopefully I'll be able to do more after work today. I want to at least get through the high ones (8s, 9s, and 10s), and the ones I gave low scores to (1s, 2s, 3s), before this challenge is over.

Message edited by author 2004-05-12 16:04:54.
05/12/2004 07:33:46 PM · #13
think this might be the right time to ask ....

what is the english term for the feeling you get when you think you've created a photograph that is aesthetically sound , fits the challenge theme perfectly , technically correct ...... and yet you get an average score in the high 4's after 100 votes and with 3 comments ???

:) i just want to know ... so i can feel a lil bit better :)
05/12/2004 07:35:35 PM · #14
Originally posted by Neuferland:

And each will get a comment as to why before the Opposite's challenge is done. They will be short and to the point because there are so many and time is short around here this week. :)

Deannda


Every time that someone decides to make comments on every picture I never submit a shot :(
05/12/2004 07:59:08 PM · #15
I am new here, this is the first challenge I have voted on and have yet to enter one. I was one who handed out low scores to many photographs (but also some high ones) and did not write comments (too many photos). I just have to say that my overall impression was that it seemed that there was alot of repetitiveness in the subject matter chosen, which is what drove me to handing out many 3's and 4's. I was going through the photographs waiting for something that stood out from the rest. Those were the ones that scored highly from me.
05/12/2004 08:00:25 PM · #16
Originally posted by bayonic:

think this might be the right time to ask ....

what is the english term for the feeling you get when you think you've created a photograph that is aesthetically sound , fits the challenge theme perfectly , technically correct ...... and yet you get an average score in the high 4's after 100 votes and with 3 comments ???

:) i just want to know ... so i can feel a lil bit better :)


I don't think I can post the word you are searching for... :o)
05/12/2004 08:24:24 PM · #17
Originally posted by bayonic:

think this might be the right time to ask ....

what is the english term for the feeling you get when you think you've created a photograph that is aesthetically sound , fits the challenge theme perfectly , technically correct ...... and yet you get an average score in the high 4's after 100 votes and with 3 comments ???

:) i just want to know ... so i can feel a lil bit better :)


DISAPPOINTED?
05/12/2004 08:41:09 PM · #18
"Fourteen 2's, Fifty-one 3's and Ninty-five 4's"

I think I'm going to get more of it......mine is being blasted, scorewise and commentwise....

well, I'm expecting it with my entry, but I don't care now if I get 300+ 1's....I'm happy with it and its not something of a setup shot or something like an everyday view outside my window. :)

...just lucky with that shot....lucky to captured that moment I supposed....

tasteless as others may say, I still like my shot... :)
05/12/2004 10:12:10 PM · #19
Originally posted by stormy:

I am new here, this is the first challenge I have voted on and have yet to enter one. I was one who handed out low scores to many photographs (but also some high ones) and did not write comments (too many photos). I just have to say that my overall impression was that it seemed that there was alot of repetitiveness in the subject matter chosen, which is what drove me to handing out many 3's and 4's. I was going through the photographs waiting for something that stood out from the rest. Those were the ones that scored highly from me.

There is alot of repetition in this challenge BUT I really try and vote each one on it's own merit. I don't think it's fair to vote people too low based solely on them not knowing others would enter the same idea for a shot. Of course it gets unoriginal after 20 of anything but I think the nature of DPC is to recognize quality and not quantity.

edit:poor spelling

Message edited by author 2004-05-12 22:13:13.
05/12/2004 10:59:27 PM · #20
I did not participate in this one, but I see that people tend to put alot of importance on originality. Let me explain.

Fire and Ice has been used a little bit too much in this challenge, but yet, some of them are marvelously done with great lighting and perfect angle. Yet, because it's fire and ice and you can see 30 others like that. Voters forget the quality of that single picture and vote low for lack of originality.

Originality is a major factor for myself when I vote (and I voted them all) but you can't forget the technical portion of the work. I will try to comment them, but some are so obvious that i'm certain that other people already mentionned that they are out of foucs, too small or out of subject, etc, etc.. i'l ltry to be more constructive.
05/12/2004 11:49:28 PM · #21
Originally posted by BruB:



Originality is a major factor for myself when I vote (and I voted them all) but you can't forget the technical portion of the work.


I agree completely! I try to judge on not only originality of concept, but also on originality in the presentation. Like with fire and ice. there are some that are...well,just technically and creatively drab. Then there are some that are technically good, but lack imagination in the presentation. Finally there are those that are technically good and creatively presented making an amazing photograph.
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