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 04/23/2004 03:50:10 PM · #1
Can anyone comment on the pros and cons of these two software packages? I know a big difference is cost. Is Photoshop a more capable program? I currently use Paint Shop Pro and I want to upgrade to the new version, however maybe I should be thinking about changing to Photoshop. Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks
 04/23/2004 03:56:36 PM · #2
I'm not experienced with Photoshop - but I am with PSP (as some can attest). I cannot for the life of me see why someone other than a professional artist would need PS at a cost of more than 8 times PSP. Unless they have a cracked version, in which case it makes financial sense, at least.

The only thing I know i'd love PP to do that PS doesn't is the use of selection brushes, as the selection tools are more limited in PSP: I expect plug-ins are available, but I haven't bothered to find out.

Most plug-ins that work for PS also work on PSP - Neatimage does, if you have the home or pro '+' version.

E
 04/23/2004 04:05:34 PM · #3
Slightly off the topic, Ed, I find if I am editing a large photograph (2.8mb) in Paintshop it is hesitant, as though there is a memory problem.Yet in PS it is great, any ideas.
As for the comparison,PS is far superior in a lot of ways but mainly aimed at the more professional users.
 04/23/2004 04:07:48 PM · #4
I believe it's because of the way in which it writes and saves undo data - I rememeber Setzler posting about this not long ago. Might be worth searching the forums. I only really notice that if the image is around 6000 pixel square ... the actual image it's working on is then around 80Mb.

E

Message edited by author 2004-04-23 16:08:56.
 04/23/2004 04:18:45 PM · #5
that is some data, thanks Ed I'll do a search,
Paul.
 04/23/2004 04:20:54 PM · #6
Photoshop may have more features but if you don't use them it's a waste. The professionals use Photoshop because it's the standard.

If you feel comfortable with PSP why change? If you decide to change over you would have a relearn everything. You can always download a trial version of PS to try.

Note: I use PS7 and Elements, but still not good with either :)
 04/23/2004 05:10:41 PM · #7
for basic editing i wouldnt go as far as photoshop unless you wanted to get photoshop elements. photoshop is amazing but really streamlined for photography, graphic design and the like.
 04/23/2004 05:13:34 PM · #8
I've also considered "upgrading" to Photoshop, and I am certain I will one day. I would suggest having a quick look on ebay before committing to PSP 8, as you might find a bargain on Photoshop if you buy it second hand.

I would defintely buy Photoshop if (1) it was reasonably priced, (2) I had need of it, and (3) I could customise the toolbars to my preference. That way I could make it as PSP-like as possible and therefore easier to adapt to.

Radpix, the biggest advantage that Photoshop has over its competetors is that it is the most widely used, and therefore has the most tutorials written about it, and is easiest to get advice about. On DPC, however, any question you might have about Paint Shop Pro or Photoshop or whatever, will never go unanswered.
 04/23/2004 05:43:14 PM · #9
Hi all,

Let me point out you have another choice besides PS and PSP. have you ever tried GIMP?

It has most of the functions PS & PSP do, and even more. There are plenty of plug-ins, if the one you need doesn't exist you can write your own... and it's free!!

I run it under Linux (i don't run Windows at home, have enougth of it at work!;), but there's a version running on windows too.

S2
C.
04/23/2004 05:45:42 PM · #10
photoshop is the only option for me!! i couldnt live without it. but of course i went to school for graphic design so there is no alternative now. photoshop is a lot better program. "you get what you pay for" keep that in mind when looking at these two programs also!! good luck with it.
 04/23/2004 06:52:40 PM · #11
There are alternatives to paying $700.00 for photoshop. Try this website: //www.getsoftnow.biz/cdc/?xhrokyu
They specialize in OEM software. Photoshop CS for $80.00.
 04/23/2004 06:59:45 PM · #12
Originally posted by dj01sr:
There are alternatives to paying $700.00 for photoshop. Try this website: //www.getsoftnow.biz/cdc/?xhrokyu
They specialize in OEM software. Photoshop CS for $80.00.

I refer to the internal truism:

If it sounds too good to the true, it is.
 04/23/2004 07:28:47 PM · #13
One of the reasons I'd always stay with Photoshop or PSP is that you can get tutorials on them everywhere. New appear in mags, and online, on a weekly basic.

I subscribe to an excellent UK mag called Digital Photo, simply because each momth they have about 90 mins of tutorials, from basic stuff, to advanced (they just did a good one on blending modes for instance) to projects.

I much prefer PS to PSP but mostly because I am more familiar with it now, originally that was reversed.

Having said that, I think PSP is far better value for money and I doubt I ever do anything outside of its bounds.
 04/23/2004 08:21:13 PM · #14
I'm too tempted to buy OEM Photoshop CS but it HAS to be too good to be true. I understand about not getting the box or manual and that I won't be able to register it but does that also mean I won't be able to verify it either or indeed use it?

Also, is this illegal?

Has anyone else here had any major problems with OEM Photoshop?
 04/23/2004 08:28:56 PM · #15
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Originally posted by dj01sr:
There are alternatives to paying $700.00 for photoshop. Try this website: //www.getsoftnow.biz/cdc/?xhrokyu
They specialize in OEM software. Photoshop CS for $80.00.

I refer to the internal truism:

If it sounds too good to the true, it is.


Normally if there is that much of a price break, they are selling you pirated software...Beware!! Check them out THOROUGHLY before purchasing, so that you don't get scammed. I have been hearing about people selling pirated software at a deep discount. Everything looks good until you have problems, then the company is not there to help or fix anything. Just something to think about!

I also found this little tidbit online:
Buying or selling software on Ebay

This may explain a few things. Hope it helps!

-Danielle

Message edited by author 2004-04-23 20:32:38.
 04/23/2004 08:58:03 PM · #16
Originally posted by dj01sr:
There are alternatives to paying $700.00 for photoshop. Try this website: //www.getsoftnow.biz/cdc/?xhrokyu
They specialize in OEM software. Photoshop CS for $80.00.


Yes. Prolly pirated. ALso be aware that Photoshop CS does require "product activation", so Adobe should be aware of whether multiple replicates of a single copy are floating around.
There are certainly other LEGAL ways of getting PS CS at a relatively good price, no need to pay list.
Go on ebay and buy an unregistered old version, then upgrade it. You can certainly come away under $300. Just be certain you know what you are buying, and what is required to upgrade.
I did this originally, buying a V4.0 "NIB" for less than $100, and upgrading to 7.0 for $149. I then upgraded to CS for $169 18 months later.
 04/25/2004 12:56:22 PM · #17
I just found this on Ebay too:
It appears that OEM Photoshop doesn't exist:

"They don’t make OEM Photoshop, they never have done or will do, I spoke to the head of Adobe piracy, and they told me directly that there is copies of software that looks that good, that they could even be fooled, if it wasn’t for they have never made any of them, adobe will verify this, they have never ever made or produced one copy of Photoshop, Illustrator, Go live etc for OEM. Why would they give away software that costs hundreds or thousands of pounds for near enough free with a new PC or some thing. The Photoshop OEM stuff on this site is all counterfeit, please don’t be fooled, you will be liable for prosecution if you are caught. If you are working as a pro designer, you will eventually be checked by the Counterfeit police. I have been. These guys have the same rights to enter your premises as the health and safety; you cannot stop them in any way. And they have full legal authority to check your computers without a warrant."
 04/25/2004 01:17:47 PM · #18
Originally posted by RichT8496:

It appears that OEM Photoshop doesn't exist:

This may be true, but Adobe has certainly bundled various versions Photoshop with other companies' products (e.g. scanners) for a long time -- I have a sealed box with PS 2.5 on a shelf at work. Came complete with serial number and registration card (and upgrade path) ... got it with an AGFA scanner I think. I'm not sure of the technical differences between a bundling and an OEM agreement, but to the end-user they would seem to have a similar effect.
 04/25/2004 01:18:25 PM · #19
Wouldn't it be easier to go after the sellers of the pirated software rather than their victims?

Message edited by author 2004-04-25 13:18:59.
 04/25/2004 01:30:08 PM · #20
Photoshop has a LOT more to offer above PSP than just brush selection. AND you get ImageReady with PS, designed especially for turning your photos into web graphics. But PS alone compared to PSP is like trying to compare the finest steak house in town with McDonald's. McDonald's is faster and easier and cheaper. So is PSP. On the other hand, if you want fine dining, go with PS. People don't just use PS because its the "standard". "Standards" are standards for a reason. I chose to learn PS over ten years ago because it is simply the BEST of its kind, nothing beats it. If you learn PS well, there is nothing you can't accomplish. You may find other software that does some of those things faster, but not as cleanly.
 04/26/2004 11:02:18 PM · #21
Thanks to all that responded. Your expertise is much appreciated. The knowledge found at this site is truly impressive, Thanks.

Rich
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