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04/15/2004 09:53:42 AM · #1
warning to all check the date on your camera
My camera was stolen 3 weeks ago and while searching for reviews on a replacment I found this site and joined
I had what I thought was good idea for the Strength challenge but no camera. So I borrowed a friends camera for a few hours to do the shoot. I had a quick look at the date (13th April) but did not notice that they had not set the year and it was 03 not 04
while I'm not happy I had read the rules and understand my being DQed

the bad part was my Photo was doing well @ 5.9021 and rising after 143 votes with 19 good coments

this makes me more determind to get my new camera and enter more challenges
but I will be checking the date before every photo I take

Keith

ps. my Photo is still up in the challenge and After 147 votes it is still rising 5.9252 I wonder if it would have made it to a 6 :)

Message edited by author 2004-04-15 10:03:55.
04/15/2004 11:35:11 AM · #2
D'oh!
How unfortunate. Hope you find a new cam soon. Good luck!
04/15/2004 11:36:48 AM · #3
What image was it?
04/15/2004 11:44:51 AM · #4
The photo in question was accidentally DQd, as has been re-instated. However, the site council are currently discussing the legality of the particular shot, so it might still be DQd (again).

Message edited by author 2004-04-15 11:55:44.
04/15/2004 11:48:47 AM · #5
Keith, That's harsh. Torn between 'dems d'rules' and 'ahh come on'! Don't suppose you have a recent copy of the national paper in the background do you? ;) I too am intrigued to know which one was yours...

Terry W.
04/15/2004 11:57:17 AM · #6
What does accidentally DQ'ed mean? Was it ousted because the photog accidentally had the wrong year in the cam's date, or did some SC member accidentally put it out before an official determination was reached? Site Council works in such mysterious ways.
04/15/2004 01:26:17 PM · #7
Why was it questioned in the first place?
04/15/2004 01:54:43 PM · #8
Originally posted by dsray:

Why was it questioned in the first place?
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Is the image EXIF data automatically read with each submission? If so, then the totally missing data from the images I have submitted must default to "acceptable"!

04/15/2004 02:06:47 PM · #9
It's my understanding --------- that it's random. Beyond that I know nothing ---------- I think if they tell their 'secret ways' they have to shoot ya!

The submission page has a little reminder to check your dates!!
04/15/2004 02:12:44 PM · #10
It was "accidentally" DQ'd because the DQ interface isn't nearly as nice and polished as the "public facing" stuff. So it is somewhat confusing, and one of the SC members just accidentally typed in some text in one text box (DQ reason) instead of another (SC Opinion)... just a simple mistake from having to deal with the large number of DQ requests we've needed to investigate lately.
04/15/2004 02:13:29 PM · #11
Originally posted by coolhar:

What does accidentally DQ'ed mean? Was it ousted because the photog accidentally had the wrong year in the cam's date, or did some SC member accidentally put it out before an official determination was reached? Site Council works in such mysterious ways.


There is a section where we can add comments and discuss the photo, and there is a section where we DQ or Validate the photo. Instead of clicking on add comment, they clicked on DQ, but immediately reinstated it after realizing the error, so it was never really out of the challenge at all. The photo is still being discussed and is STILL in the challenge, so it's a good idea to not reveal which one it is. It may still be DQed, who knows. But I'm sure the verdict will be in soon. ~Heather~
04/15/2004 02:16:47 PM · #12
Originally posted by ElGordo:

Is the image EXIF data automatically read with each submission?

Not for challenge submissions. All extraneous JPEG data is actually stripped from challenge submissions at upload time.

But when proof is submitted, then there is an automated tool that parses the EXIF data for SC review.

It is very important to check the date/time on your camera before taking any pictures that you may consider using as a challenge entry...
04/15/2004 02:27:15 PM · #13
Thanks EddyG and hbunch7187.
04/15/2004 03:08:29 PM · #14
thanks for the good news so far
fingers crossed that the council lets it stay in the challenge
there was a fare amount of setup involeved in the shot that you would not do in a normal photo just for fun unless you had a specific challenge to meet. So its not a photo I would have taken year ago and just had laying around

I was not going to show the shot till after the challenge was over to be fair on everyone

now the photo is up to 5.9434 after 159 votes... it may make it to 6 after all :) but it could just as well start to go down
what ever the outcome is I'm happy with the Photo

Keith

edit: now @ 5.9634 after 164 votes

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04/15/2004 06:04:23 PM · #15
I don't think this will reveal your shot so I"m going to ask you which camera was stolen the Sony or the Kodak?

Message edited by author 2004-04-15 18:40:12.
04/15/2004 06:37:39 PM · #16
I have an question.. I'm sure this has been asked before, but what about the time difference from living in different time zones? I live in Australia, and the challenges finishes at 2pm on Wednesday. If I take a picture at 12pm Wednesday, my camera lists the date as incorrect, but it was still taken before submissions close...

how should we read into this?
04/15/2004 06:41:52 PM · #17
Originally posted by dhare:

I have an question.. I'm sure this has been asked before, but what about the time difference from living in different time zones? I live in Australia, and the challenges finishes at 2pm on Wednesday. If I take a picture at 12pm Wednesday, my camera lists the date as incorrect, but it was still taken before submissions close...

how should we read into this?


I believe that the SC will put into account the location of photographer. If traveling outside the country to another timezone you should probably note the infomation in the photographers notes area.
04/15/2004 06:46:36 PM · #18
Originally posted by dhare:

I have an question.. I'm sure this has been asked before, but what about the time difference from living in different time zones? I live in Australia, and the challenges finishes at 2pm on Wednesday. If I take a picture at 12pm Wednesday, my camera lists the date as incorrect, but it was still taken before submissions close...

how should we read into this?

Set your camera to your local time zone (where you are taking the pictures). We will take that into account when comparing the time-stamp on the photo with DPC-server time.

If you want to make the math easier for us, put a note about it in the additional info section on the submission page, such as "it's still two hours to go in the challenge, but it is noon the next day here in ...." If you want "insurance," you could take a photo of your monitor showing the DPC-Server time, and keep that original with the original of your entry.
04/15/2004 06:49:02 PM · #19
I'm now relating to a DQ on the receiving end. The information in this post has been helpful. One of the goals I set for myself was to capture a photo 'Unreal' enough to be recommended for a DQ. A photo which was/is completely legal and this is now the case. The validation process is pending the SC scrutiny. I would ask any of you that may know. "Does a photo tend to score better or worse after Validation?" I'm pleased with the photo I submitted, yet may have shot myself in the foot by choosing NOT to use Photoshop to modify one 'detail' which many have commented on, it makes them think it was 'Unreal'.
04/15/2004 06:54:31 PM · #20
By the way it does have to do with time & space, yet I didn't want to reveal any more details so as to keep it 'cloaked'.
04/15/2004 06:58:31 PM · #21
Ahh thanks for info.. much appreciated!
04/15/2004 07:09:00 PM · #22
Sorry I was the stupid person who typed into the wrong box and accidently DQ'd you. I didn't realise an email got sent out automatically so I hope what I typed didn't come over too harsh!
04/15/2004 08:44:16 PM · #23
Keith, I suggest you make a copy of those nice comments, just in case your photo is still disqualified. It would be a shame to lose them.
04/16/2004 07:45:07 AM · #24
it's offical I have been disqualified
oh well you live and learn
not sure if it made it to 6, last time I checked 4 hours ago it was up to 5.97??
looks like I wasn't the only one with this problem Hans (MotoCycleBoi) also suffered from the wrong year syndrom... good luck next time Hans

there seems to have been 5 DQs as the entry list has gone down from 292 to 287

Keith
04/16/2004 07:54:31 AM · #25
Originally posted by faidoi:

I don't think this will reveal your shot so I"m going to ask you which camera was stolen the Sony or the Kodak?


the Sony was the borrowed camera I stuffed up the date on and the Kodak is the camera I will pick up this weekend (had to put a camera in when I signed up) the stolen camera was an older model Kodak DC3400

Keith

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