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04/06/2004 07:57:34 PM · #1
Today at CNN website there is quiz about Walmart impact on a small comunites.

Most of the people agree that huge corps destroy the soul and spirit of the small towns where Mom and Pop little stores keep them alive!

Quiz

Message edited by author 2004-04-06 19:59:51.
04/06/2004 08:10:54 PM · #2
Yes but walmart provides WAY more jobs and provides a much cheaper product for communities that are on the poorer side especially.

I grew up in a small poor town and the best thing for the area was walmart coming to town. Boosted the economy BIG time!!!
04/06/2004 08:16:30 PM · #3
Originally posted by Russell2566:

Yes but walmart provides WAY more jobs and provides a much cheaper product for communities that are on the poorer side especially.

I grew up in a small poor town and the best thing for the area was walmart coming to town. Boosted the economy BIG time!!!


Check Mt Pleasant Iowa,9000 people ,WalMart,McDonalds,Taco Bell and everything else is closed down.
That is no fun my Right wing friend.
What is the name of your town?
04/06/2004 08:28:41 PM · #4
I'd be more impressed with the jobs if Wal-Mart wasn't one of the companies in which time-shaving (altering employee time-records) wasn't so pervasive. Those billions the Waltons enjoy are accumulated by ripping off minimum-wage workers of their overtime. See yesterday's N.Y. Times for a roster of the other prime offenders (surprisingly, to me anyway, not McDonalds!).

I am not impressed by their line of "it's against policy -- we fire those responsible" -- they just fire the mid-level cannon-fodder. Let's see the CEO do some Federal time for this outrage, or maybe the stockholders ... that's where the bucks stop after all. I'm sick and tired of the adulation these reverse Robin Hoods -- they steal from the poor to give to the rich -- receive, merely because their accountants and lawyers can tote up more mega-bucks than anyone else.
04/06/2004 08:32:25 PM · #5
Originally posted by Russell2566:

Yes but walmart provides WAY more jobs and provides a much cheaper product for communities that are on the poorer side especially.

Look up the meaning of the phrase "company store." You'll find it used in the classic song Sixteen Tons popularized by "Tennessee" Ernie Ford.

By paying garbage wages, Wal-Mart actually descreases people's buying power, until the only place they can afford to shop is Wal-Mart.
04/06/2004 08:58:11 PM · #6
The results of the votes so far, I have no other comments, other than I voted on the negative side

What impact do Wal-Mart stores have on local communities?

Positive 38% 10856 votes

Negative 62% 17586 votes

James
04/06/2004 09:01:20 PM · #7
Originally posted by Russell2566:

Yes but walmart provides WAY more jobs and provides a much cheaper product for communities that are on the poorer side especially.

I grew up in a small poor town and the best thing for the area was walmart coming to town. Boosted the economy BIG time!!!


true wal mart provides lots of jobs, but many of the employees of wal mart and Sams Club are not happy at all. I know many people who work for wal mart or Sams and if they could quit and find another job they would, but Wal mart or sams was a last ditch effort for them to get a job to pay the bills

James
04/06/2004 09:39:43 PM · #8
What quiz are you referring to?
There is so much other stuff on that page :)

If they want to hammer someone lets start the list:

Albertsons
Kroger
Thom Thumb
Home Depot
Lowes
Eckerds
Walgreens

And we shop Walmart for groceries because the others are do damn expensive!

All of these stores have built within a 1 mile radius in our community.

Eckerds and Walgreens have two locations in less than 1 mile!!

Originally posted by pitsaman:

Today at CNN website there is quiz about Walmart impact on a small comunites.

Most of the people agree that huge corps destroy the soul and spirit of the small towns where Mom and Pop little stores keep them alive!

Quiz

04/06/2004 09:46:48 PM · #9
Hell I think Walmart is the best damn thing around!

I love the prices.
Beats Best Buy, Circuit City and all the other retail outlets.

Hell they are worth about five times more than Bill Gates.

100billion according to the latest Fortune magazine.
Only split 5 ways 20 billion each family member.

Message edited by author 2004-04-11 00:14:04.
04/06/2004 10:07:38 PM · #10
Originally posted by Calvus:

You dang people want something to bitch about attack Bill Gates!
He puts out shit and is wealthy for it!
Break is damn monopoly up!!

He is still ruling computer manufacturers

I would tend to dispute most of that.

Being the sad software developer that I am, I was reading the history to DOS and Windows on About.com the other day.. here.
04/06/2004 10:12:30 PM · #11
I have read it and lived it.
I wrote a 30 page report on this for my MSE degree.
I truly impressed the professor who loved Billy boy.
He pratically stole DOS from the man that wrote it for $50,000.
He stole windows from apple.
He has never written anything that was 100% his.

EDIT:

The only thing Bill Gates has is his two years of LAW before he dropped out of college. Learned just enough to take advantage of everyone. Of course his "Lawyer" father helps out :)

Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Originally posted by Calvus:

You dang people want something to bitch about attack Bill Gates!
He puts out shit and is wealthy for it!
Break is damn monopoly up!!

He is still ruling computer manufacturers

I would tend to dispute most of that.

Being the sad software developer that I am, I was reading the history to DOS and Windows on About.com the other day.. here.


Message edited by author 2004-04-06 22:25:58.
04/06/2004 10:34:33 PM · #12
The title of my report was:
"The history of computers and networks and where Microsoft fits in"

Our beloved professor was so big on Bill Gates until I bashed his butt in my report and showed him the truth.

What is Windows?

Answer:
32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition, and cares 0 bits about its customers!


04/06/2004 10:46:15 PM · #13




ROFLMAO

Message edited by author 2004-04-07 00:07:34.
04/06/2004 11:06:17 PM · #14
Dilbert's fun, and I hope it isn't a copyright violation to post it here.

My feeling on Walmart is that it is a no-win situation. Communities that vote down Walmart's superstores will regret their decision. Walmart will only find another community closeby that will get the jobs and tax revenues.

If one objects to Walmart's practices the only real solution is to choose not to shop at their stores.
04/06/2004 11:11:40 PM · #15
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Look up the meaning of the phrase "company store." You'll find it used in the classic song Sixteen Tons popularized by "Tennessee" Ernie Ford.


John Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath was another. I think I've read all of his novels except for Travels With Charley.
04/06/2004 11:37:03 PM · #16
Originally posted by Calvus:

I wrote a 30 page report on this for my MSE degree.

Yeah, Microsoft sure do suck. That MSE must be NO use to you at all....
04/06/2004 11:44:38 PM · #17
Originally posted by garrywhite2:

Dilbert's fun, and I hope it isn't a copyright violation to post it here.


It most definitely is, and United Features is very agressive about protecting it.
04/06/2004 11:49:59 PM · #18
Not true

I got the degree, and I learned how to fix and repair his mistakes.
I just refused to get ceritfied through Microsft (MCSE) for an additional $700! I would be damned If I gave them that money!

Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Originally posted by Calvus:

I wrote a 30 page report on this for my MSE degree.

Yeah, Microsoft sure do suck. That MSE must be NO use to you at all....

04/06/2004 11:54:18 PM · #19
Originally posted by Calvus:

I got the degree, and I learned how to fix and repair his mistakes.
I just refused to get ceritfied through Microsft (MCSE) for an additional $700! I would be damned If I gave them that money!

Robin, I hate to say this, but every time you fix one of 'his mistakes' you're just giving him more money. :-) No Windows IT professionals, no corporate use, no home use..

I respect your opinion; maybe I just see Microsoft after Windows 3.0..
04/07/2004 12:00:49 AM · #20
Both our son's use to feel that way.

They are now graduates in Computer Science and our youngest is going for his masters degree.

They both use linux.

My youngest son has to deal with it at work because his company has not woke up yet and they make so much money they could care less.

Our oldest son works for the State of Texas and they are going Linux.

Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Originally posted by Calvus:

I got the degree, and I learned how to fix and repair his mistakes.
I just refused to get ceritfied through Microsft (MCSE) for an additional $700! I would be damned If I gave them that money!

Robin, I hate to say this, but every time you fix one of 'his mistakes' you're just giving him more money. :-) No Windows IT professionals, no corporate use, no home use..

I respect your opinion; maybe I just see Microsoft after Windows 3.0..

04/07/2004 12:06:48 AM · #21
Originally posted by Calvus:

Both our son's use to feel that way.

They are now graduates in Computer Science and our youngest is going for his masters degree.

My degree doesn't seem to have helped change my mind. And for the record, I've used Linux quite a lot myself. :-) I don't object to people liking Windows, Macs or whatever. What I disagree with is blanket-disapproving of a technology. Do you want Linux on your old granny's desktop? No.

I get the feeling you're coming from an information systems background, which I agree Linux has a lot of advantages.

I come from a software development background, where Windows is significantly easier to develop for, and under.
04/07/2004 12:26:35 AM · #22
The only point I was out to make is that Walmart is no different than most other companies today.

I don't really care what people like to use.

But when Micrsoft tells computer manufacturers they can not sell machines with Linux and other software products or they will pull their license to sell MS it is bull. Where are these whiners when all this is going on? They seem to have their priorities mixed up?

Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Originally posted by Calvus:

Both our son's use to feel that way.

They are now graduates in Computer Science and our youngest is going for his masters degree.

My degree doesn't seem to have helped change my mind. And for the record, I've used Linux quite a lot myself. :-) I don't object to people liking Windows, Macs or whatever. What I disagree with is blanket-disapproving of a technology. Do you want Linux on your old granny's desktop? No.

I get the feeling you're coming from an information systems background, which I agree Linux has a lot of advantages.

I come from a software development background, where Windows is significantly easier to develop for, and under.


Message edited by author 2004-04-07 00:27:29.
04/07/2004 05:30:28 AM · #23
Originally posted by PaulMdx:

I come from a software development background, where Windows is significantly easier to develop for, and under.

blankets and hogwash!
04/08/2004 05:43:53 PM · #24
Originally posted by dwoolridge:

Originally posted by PaulMdx:

I come from a software development background, where Windows is significantly easier to develop for, and under.

blankets and hogwash!


I too come from a software development background, having lots of experience on Windows, Mac, Linux, and Unix. You may have even purchased one of my titles! In *my* opinion, Windows has the best tools (granted, some of them are available on multiple platforms) and the most consistent interface to develop for.

Let me know when you get that major consumer-grade application done for Linux, okay? And no, another web browser doesn't count. :)
04/08/2004 06:15:54 PM · #25
Originally posted by Mousie:

I too come from a software development background, having lots of experience on Windows, Mac, Linux, and Unix. You may have even purchased one of my titles! In *my* opinion, Windows has the best tools (granted, some of them are available on multiple platforms) and the most consistent interface to develop for.

Let me know when you get that major consumer-grade application done for Linux, okay? And no, another web browser doesn't count. :)


Muddle, fuddle, and buddle!
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