Help? Cannot open 393 megabyte TIF file in CS3

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

08/14/2008 09:36:44 AM · #1

I can't open a 393 megabyte TIF file in CS3 (it's from a high-res scan of a large map), I get this error:

"Could not complete your request because there is not enough memory (RAM)"

The PC is a Pentium D CPU 3.4GHz with 1 GB of RAM. I've gone into the CS3 performance prefs and slid the "let Photoshop use.." memory usage slider all the way to the right, which translates to 772MB, with no joy.

Is there some way I can sample this beast down so I can at least get at it?

Don't blame me for the assinine size of the file, please, it's not my fault. :-(

Message edited by author 2008-08-14 09:37:21.

JaimeVinas

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

08/14/2008 09:43:36 AM · #2

you need another Gig of ram at least.

08/14/2008 09:43:48 AM · #3

Did you close all other apps? And all items open in Photoshop.
Also: how much space is available on your hard drive?

Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

08/14/2008 09:46:02 AM · #4

I believe Photoshop uses hard drive space as virtual memory, so it is good to have space on your hard drive.

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

08/14/2008 09:48:02 AM · #5

There should be something in the scan dialog box to make the size of the file smaller. I just disconnected my scanner last week, so I can't check it for you. But, your best hope would be to scan it again at a smaller resolution.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

08/14/2008 09:52:50 AM · #6

scratch disk

Apple iPhone 5

08/14/2008 10:05:05 AM · #7

Have you tried opening it in a different graphics program? I use FastStone (freeware) all the time when I want something that's fast and light.

I just browsed to a folder with a bunch of 80-90Mb tifs, and it allowed me to right-click the thumbnail and save as another format (e.g. jpg) or do a 'batch convert' and resize it down. Resize it or change it to jpg, and PS3 should be able to open it.

strangeghost

Canon EOS-7D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

08/14/2008 10:11:50 AM · #8

One Gb of RAM is so early 2000's. You need more RAM dude.

08/14/2008 10:12:01 AM · #9

Yeah - you could also use Lightroom to export a smaller downsampled file. Free 30 day demo if you don't have it.

But, do check your hard-drive space, your RAM should be OK as long as all other apps are closed

Message edited by author 2008-08-14 10:14:05.

08/14/2008 10:21:18 AM · #10

Originally posted by metatate:

Only one drive on this PC (C:). 50GB free space, and it is checked as the Scratch Disk. Annoying that it doesn't seem to be using virtual memory, which is set to 1.5GB min to 3GB max. :-/

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

08/14/2008 10:25:28 AM · #11

Hmmm, Try setting it to 30GB or something just to be sure. The I think you might need to restart.

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by metatate:
Yeah - you could also use Lightroom to export a smaller downsampled file. Free 30 day demo if you don't have it.

But, do check your hard-drive space, your RAM should be OK as long as all other apps are closed

Only one drive on this PC (C:). 50GB free space, and it is checked as the Scratch Disk. Annoying that it doesn't seem to be using virtual memory, which is set to 1.5GB min to 3GB max. :-/

Brad

Olympus OM-D E-M1

08/14/2008 10:42:26 AM · #12

Here is your work-around:
If you don't already have it, get Irfanview and open the tif with it - may have to right-click, open with. Then after it opens in Irfanview, do a Save as, and you'll see a file location pop up and a Grey box with a bunch of check boxes and a slider. Un check the boxes (does same as save for web stuff), choose jpeg and take the slider to around 90% (I've never seen much of a difference between 90% and up) and save it. I just opened a 498MB tif with Irfanview, did a save as jpeg at 90% and had an 11MB file saved at 90%. Obviously there is data loss, but you can experiment saving at 100% and see what happens file size-wise, but at least it's a method to get at it.

Ann

Olympus OM-D E-M1

Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8 Pro

08/14/2008 11:20:13 AM · #13

Is it a 16 bit image? Does it have a bunch of layers? Do you need to keep the layers? If Brad's method doesn't shrink it enough, you might try using irfanview to save it as a jpeg. That'll both flatten it and convert it to 8 bit at the same time. The obvious problems with flattening and jpeg conversion apply, of course.

ralph

Nikon Z9

08/14/2008 12:04:08 PM · #14

i'll reiterate -- more ram !!
i often open 500-1000meg files tif images but i had 3gig of ram (new machine & now have 8gig )

Anti-Martyr

Fujifilm FinePix S5 Pro

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED

08/14/2008 12:34:38 PM · #15

RAM is one of the easiest additions/swaps ever. Just listen to everyone else in this topic and pick up and extra 2gb of the stuff and you'll be set for a while. Or at least until 64bit colors becomes the new standard :)

spiritualspatula

Panasonic LUMIX DMC-LX100

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

08/15/2008 01:41:24 AM · #16

RAM UPGRADE! If you haven't streamlined your startup and gotten rid of all the crap that defaults to operating on startup, do that too and you may be able to get it to open after eliminating a lot of the operating processes that run in the background. This issue has nothing to do with the requirements of the program for installation and everything to do with the size of the file overwhelming your system. The only way that using another program is going to help is if it uses less system resources during operation. Solutions for using another program given here don't really mean anything without system stats included. Without that info, there's no way to tell if your solution is likely to work for him. IrfanView takes less resources, so there's a possibility it could work though. But honestly, the ram increase will be worth it in the long run because it will speed up everything. Throw 40 bucks at Newegg.com and make your computer happier.

08/15/2008 08:25:43 AM · #17

Hmm, couldn't open it on my machine at home, with 4GB RAM. I'm going to send the map out again to be scanned at lower resolution with some important bits at higher res.
:-( oh well

I also tried the Irfanview with no joy.

Thanks for the help, though, I appreciate it!
:-)

08/15/2008 08:31:30 AM · #18

I assume you copied the image to the hard drive first?
If you had it scanned, did the people who scanned it have any thoughts?