Why was this DQ'd? - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

07/16/2008 03:45:18 PM · #1

This just got DQ'd saying I'm not supposed to use Vignette, when I never used vignette. This is simply a border....

I followed the steps in this sticky

Originally posted by Aaron:

Here's what I do.
"Select" menu-click all
"Select" menu-modify-border
then select border pixel size
"Layer" menu--New Fill layer--solid color--OK- select color- OK

I stopped there, the border is 40 px wide...

Message edited by author 2008-07-16 15:45:39.

dahkota

Canon EOS-7D

07/16/2008 03:48:41 PM · #2

Maybe because Fill layers are not allowed in Basic?

I think only adjustment layers are.

tate

Apple iPhone 14 Pro

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

07/16/2008 03:49:19 PM · #3

Basic edit allows a simple border only that is an obvious border - not part of the photo ... this is where the line gets blurred ... literally.

Quote:
May:
"add a border to the outside edge of your entry. Your border must be distinct and clearly recognizable as a border."

Message edited by author 2008-07-16 16:13:29.

Sugarpie

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6 IS USM

07/16/2008 03:49:28 PM · #4

yup no layers

one2one

Olympus E-5

Olympus 7-14mm f/4.0 Zuiko Digital Zoom

07/16/2008 03:49:37 PM · #5

From basic rules.

You may:

add a border to the outside edge of your entry. Your border must be distinct and clearly recognizable as a border.

As for the sticky, they may not have been talking about specific challenge entries. I didn't read it all though, so...

Message edited by author 2008-07-16 15:52:39.

Yo_Spiff

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

07/16/2008 03:50:21 PM · #6

Since the border is a fade, Sc obviously decided it crossed the line into being a vignette. I think it crossed that "clearly recognizable as a border" line.

Olympus 7-14mm f/4.0 Zuiko Digital Zoom

07/16/2008 03:51:45 PM · #7

So why would they let something like this being on a sticky?

one2one

Olympus E-5

07/16/2008 03:53:07 PM · #8

Look at my post above

Stiger

Canon EOS-60D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

07/16/2008 03:58:21 PM · #9

There are a lot of posts on here telling you how to do different things. But just because they're there, it doesn't mean they're legal for all challenges. Chalk it up to learning. You got some nice votes and some nice comments. Next time a basic challenge rolls around, you'll know what you can do and what you can't.

07/16/2008 03:58:56 PM · #10

This got DQ'd because of this "This includes adding vignettes. And I definitely did not use any vignettes.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

07/16/2008 04:00:44 PM · #11

Thanks

stiger, this is just a blow to my happiness, I was all happy at midnight... I guess we all interpret rules differently. =/

Message edited by scalvert - "Stinger" is a different user ;-).

Stiger

Canon EOS-60D

07/16/2008 04:01:07 PM · #12

But the border you made is basically a vignette. It fades into the photo. In a basic challenge, borders essentially must have a hard defined edge.

Don't let it bother you. Things happen. It's a nice photo that a lot of people enjoyed seeing. The DQ doesn't diminish the photo in any way.

Message edited by author 2008-07-16 16:03:14.

07/16/2008 04:02:04 PM · #13

To be honest, that's what I was going for, but I couldn't figure out how, and I liked how the border faded, so I left it like that.

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

07/16/2008 04:18:43 PM · #14

Originally posted by david_1190:

I definitely did not use any vignettes.

There are many ways to make a vignette, including the method you used. If the image area appears gradually darkened around the edges, it's probably going to be considered a vignette. The border has to be distinct enough that it doesn't look like a lighting effect on the photo itself. Bear in mind that the sticky thread you referenced is from 2003. The info is still good, but the rules have changed several times since then.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

07/16/2008 04:19:06 PM · #15

As with everything on DPC, it isn't as clear as it seems in this thread. I feel that this shot had been validated (although David could confirm that) previous...

Is the only difference the white vs. black?

Message edited by author 2008-07-16 16:20:49.

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

07/16/2008 04:21:54 PM · #16

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

As with everything on DPC, it isn't as clear as it seems in this thread...

The edge on that one is an obviously applied frame, no? It doesn't look anything like a lighting effect from the lens.

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.8D

07/16/2008 04:29:30 PM · #17

Thanks

drachoo This photo used the exact same technique I did. Just because its white doesn't make it different. And how does my border look like an lighting effect from a lens?

Louis

Nikon D800

07/16/2008 04:36:04 PM · #18

Originally posted by david_1190:

Thanks drachoo This photo used the exact same technique I did. Just because its white doesn't make it different. And how does my border look like an lighting effect from a lens?

Because it resembles vignette, which is a lighting effect from a lens. It looks very much like the effect in the picture below, which was achieved entirely with light, in the scene.

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(PS: I just realized that Jason's user name, pronounced phonetically as david_1190 has spelled it, sounds like a James Bond villain's name.)

Message edited by author 2008-07-16 16:37:22.

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

07/16/2008 04:36:43 PM · #19

Originally posted by david_1190:

how does my border look like an lighting effect from a lens?

Vignettes

icu1965

Sony DSLR-A200

Sony 75-300 mm f/4.5-5.6

07/16/2008 04:38:04 PM · #20

Originally posted by david_1190:

Thanks drachoo This photo used the exact same technique I did. Just because its white doesn't make it different. And how does my border look like an lighting effect from a lens?

If it makes you feel any better, your shot, to me, looks clearly to have a border. And comparing the two shots on this page, they're pretty much the same, one's just black and one's white. These weird DQ's are just one of the many reasons why I don't enter challenges, I stick to the side challenges.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5