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03/26/2004 11:43:38 AM · #1
What is the best Digital Editing program out there? I am currently learning about Photoshop 7, but i find it a bit much.
I've also heard about the Microsoft Picture editor....what are you using?
03/26/2004 11:47:19 AM · #2
PS & is the best, Incase not comfortable with it just try net tutorials
03/26/2004 11:48:31 AM · #3
Agreed, you can't go wrong with PhotoShop, it is by far one of the most powerful and simple editing programs. Wouldn't even touch anything else.

03/26/2004 11:48:39 AM · #4
I agree, if your not comfortable, then keep using it until you are - it will come and your images will benefit.
03/26/2004 11:50:01 AM · #5
Any suggested Tutorials sites on line that you've used
03/26/2004 11:52:44 AM · #6
I think Photoshop Elements 2 is a happy medium both in features and in cost. I n fact, PSe2 has 85% of PS7's features, at 15% of it's cost. (This statement and the figures are as accurate as I remember it from a review in Maximum PC).

I only wish they would update it to incorporate some of the new features from PS CS. One other limitation currently: only 24 bit depth is supported, so if you use raw and want 48 bit color depth preserved, PSe is not for you. (I am leaning away from it now for that reason, but hoping the newer version supports this!)
03/26/2004 11:53:57 AM · #7
Originally posted by majuicy:

Any suggested Tutorials sites on line that you've used


For me, it was trial and error, you can get a pretty good idea by just messing around with it. There are several places on this site that can give you a pretty good idea on how to use its basic functions.
03/26/2004 11:53:58 AM · #8
Originally posted by majuicy:

What is the best Digital Editing program out there? I am currently learning about Photoshop 7, but i find it a bit much.
I've also heard about the Microsoft Picture editor....what are you using?


Apple's iPhoto for initial viewing, archiving and all basic editing (crop, brightness/contrast, B/W/Sepia conversion, etc.), Graphic Converter and Photoshop Elements for intermediate and final editing.

Although learning Photoshop 7 would probably be the most economical recommendation for your needs, Photoshop Elements would, I believe, be much easier to use for you, at this point, and perhaps meet all your needs for the time being.

Message edited by author 2004-03-26 11:54:55.
03/26/2004 11:57:25 AM · #9
Some people will tell you that Photoshop is the best but it has a lot of features beginners don't need and many find it overwhelming. Don't know about MS Picture Editor but you could try downloading the free trial version of Paint Shop Pro.
It is probably the most popular photo editing program after Photoshop, not as many features but more user friendly and a lot less expensive.
03/26/2004 12:45:18 PM · #10
For approx. $200 I have found a happy balance using a combination of Paint Shop Pro, MS Digital Image Pro and of course, the best tool for the price, Neatimage!
03/26/2004 01:31:20 PM · #11
Originally posted by brewinj:

For approx. $200 I have found a happy balance using a combination of Paint Shop Pro, MS Digital Image Pro and of course, the best tool for the price, Neatimage!


I am also familiar with Paint Shop Pro. Granted it can pretty much do the same things as PhotoShop (almost anyways), I still believe that PhotoShop may be a tad easier to use. Plus, if you have any specific questions concerning PhotoShop, you find that there are a TON of people willing to help.
03/27/2004 06:19:24 AM · #12
Just found this on DPReviewThe GIMP Hits 2.0

"Soon you will have no more excuses for using Photoshop" – Linux Magazine France, March 2004.

You gotta admit the price is right.
03/27/2004 09:09:48 AM · #13
I Use Ulead Photoimpact. Its a pretty good program and a LOT cheaper than Photo Shop.

It has some great tools just like Photoshop, but some of my images I really need extra help and I will use photo shop on those.

James
03/27/2004 10:02:20 AM · #14
I recommend highly Picture Window. Relatively cheap, and powerful. Very active user base. Can be purchased on their website //www.dl-c.com
03/27/2004 10:08:09 AM · #15
Another new option for Windows & Mac users is the GIMP v 2.0:

//www.dpreview.com/news/0403/04032602gimpv2.asp

This has always been a well-rated app for the Linux crowd, now runs on Windows and Mac (OS X) as well. And it's free.
Even though I have Photoshop CS on my desktop & laptop, I think I'll install it and see what I think. It might make a good editor for machines where I don't have a Photoshop CS license.

edit: Ah, dang, coolhar beat me to the punch! Should have posted it last night when I noticed it!

Message edited by author 2004-03-27 10:09:05.
03/27/2004 10:17:46 AM · #16
I downloaded it, both the environment and the app, just to see what it's like. Seems to have a lot of features but I am not familiar with Photoshop so can't compare directly. My first problem came up when I tried to use Help to learn some tools that are new to me. My installation has no help files, LOL.
03/27/2004 10:22:13 AM · #17
I'm missing help files as well. I did find the pdf manual and downloaded it. I was trying to find the help files as well but the install I found for help is for Unix only.
03/27/2004 10:41:25 AM · #18
Where did you find the manual pdf? I am still searching for info about the help files, will post if I find them.
03/27/2004 10:53:23 AM · #19
Looks like its matured nicely; I might give it a try.

I browsed the sight and didn't see if it supports 48 bit images (16 bits per color). Does anyone know if it does.

I did look to see if it had a CRW (Canon Raw filter). There is a RAW plugin, but it looks like its a generic RAW filter for generic use.
03/27/2004 12:20:59 PM · #20
The program only supports 24bit colour. I tried loading a 48 bit file and it converted it automatically. One nice thing though, it created a new file so the original is still in tact.

The manual is here:

ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/manual/GimpUsersManual_SecondEdition-PDF.pdf

Just right click on the link to the manual and save to your hard disk.

Also, I found a way to install help from the unix file...

1) Download the following and extract the contents - extract maintaining the file structure

ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/help/testing/gimp-help-2-0.2.tar.gz

2) Create the following directory (your path might be slightly different) within your Gimp install

C:\Program Files\GIMP-2.0\share\gimp\2.0\help

3) Copy the en directory from: (there are three other languages so copy the directory for the language you need - you'll probably have to set a preference in order to use a language other than english which I think is the default).

\gimp-help-2-0.2\html

into the help directory and everything should now work. I've only briefly tested it so there still may be missing information.

automatically parse URLs doesn't automatically parse ftp links.....

Message edited by author 2004-03-27 13:02:59.
03/27/2004 08:39:59 PM · #21
TYVM Colette.
03/28/2004 04:56:29 AM · #22
Short reviews of 10 different softwares.

Most of the programs can be downloaded and tried before purchasing. Either by going directly to the site or download.com.

Some programs take a lot of memory. If you have a newer computer with a good amount of RAM you should have no problems.

I have an older computer and Photoshop7 pretty slow, but Photoshop Elements 2 runs at a great speed.

The big question. New computer or new camera?
03/28/2004 05:08:52 AM · #23
Originally posted by faidoi:

The big question. New computer or new camera?

If you were to get a new computer, there are quite a few good deals at dell refurbished. Here's the link Thats where we got our new comp and I can't complain. tip: just watch the market and find what you want.
03/28/2004 12:59:47 PM · #24
There's also CinePaint, which is free and supports 16-bit editing, although it's color profile support is lacking/non-existent.
03/29/2004 11:46:38 AM · #25
One nice feature in gimp 2.0 is the use of display filters (View -> display filters). You can create a new veiw of your image (View -> New) and the apply a display filter for gamma correction. This will let you see what your image looks like in different gamma settings as you adjust it. This is especially handy since some people correct thier monitors so that they can see the low end of the gray scale bar, and others can't/don't/won't

(OBlinuxjoke: I would try photoshop, but doing an apt-get photoshop didn't work)
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