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06/16/2008 07:24:56 PM · #1 |
it worked and it got rid of dust bunnies
it leaves i want to say like an impression/streak of where i took the swab off of the sensor. How do I keep that from happening?
i bought them from copperhill website
im using the pec pads, and the E2 fluid
I am using only one drop of liquid |
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06/16/2008 07:55:36 PM · #2 |
How many times did you wipe the sensor? I usually wipe mine 3-4 times at each cleaning.
I use the regular Eclipse. According to 2filter.com, the Eclipse2 fluid is for specific sensor types...
"Eclipse 2 for the TinOxide CCD's used by Sony Alpha and Canon's 40D and Xti Rebel DSLR cameras, Eclipse 2 is NOT for use on any glass lenses or glass camera filters."
The original Eclipse is simply high purity alcohol. I don't know what's in Eclipse 2.
I suggest you give your sensor a few more wipes. Then, if you still have the problem, try the regular Eclipse.
BTW, high purity alcohol costs much less than Eclipse. Depending on where you buy, you can get buy 32 ounces of pure alcohol for about the same the price as a 2 ounce bottle of Eclipse.
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06/16/2008 08:35:05 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by Mick:
BTW, high purity alcohol costs much less than Eclipse. Depending on where you buy, you can get buy 32 ounces of pure alcohol for about the same the price as a 2 ounce bottle of Eclipse. |
Yes, it is less expensive... but you darn well better know what you are buying. This is the bare minimum, and is not as good as Eclipse. Notice that it has <= 0.001% residue on evaporation; that's 10ppm. It will cost you approx. $10 USD per half-liter, or about $0.60/fluid ounce, whereas Eclipse will cost about $2.00/fluid ounce. Eclipse, however, claims <=5ppm residue on evaporation, 2x better than the above referenced product. You can buy methanol with this spec, however it will cost you more like $30 per half-liter, or about $1.80/fluid ounce. The less expensive ACS grade that I linked *does* work, and leaves no visible residue. Don't, however, buy any less pure grade than the one I referenced. If you don't see a specification for "evaporated residue" or "total non-volatile matter" or the spec is not less than 0.001%, don't use it. |
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06/17/2008 01:38:47 AM · #4 |
Thank you for the input yes I have an Rebel Xti and I am using the Eclipse 2. I've also emailed the person from copperhill images and hes been emailing me back. Would regular Eclipse liquid be ok for my camera?
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06/17/2008 02:06:05 AM · #5 |
One of my pals cleaned the sensor on his new 5D, and grease that was around the sensor from the factory was smeared across the sensor when he swabbed it. I don't know if your Canon 400D has the same grease, but that may be the problem. He sent his back to factory service, and they cleaned it up for free, but it cost him shipping and some time.
The manual for my Fuji S3 spec for cleaning fluid is ethanol, 95% or stronger. I have access to 99% at work, as they buy it in 55 gallon drums, and use it for machine sanitation. I keep a 3 ounce bottle for lens and sensor cleaning.
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06/17/2008 03:07:13 AM · #6 |
In the many attempts I've (badly) made at sensor cleaning, what I've found that works for me is to first blow out with a bulb blower, then wipe with an alcohol-dampened wiper, then use a dry wiper to remove the streaks, then finally use a blower again to remove any flecks left from the final wipe. I spent ages trying to get rid of the streaks I always managed to leave behind when wet-cleaning and this seems to do the trick. Kind of.
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06/17/2008 03:32:29 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Sugarpie:
Thank you for the input yes I have an Rebel Xti and I am using the Eclipse 2. I've also emailed the person from copperhill images and hes been emailing me back. Would regular Eclipse liquid be ok for my camera? |
Here's what the manufacturer (Photographic Solutions Inc) has to say: What Sensor Swab and what liquid should be used with your specific camera
According to that list, you should use E2 on your 400D Rebel Xti. Apparently Canon started coating the high-pass or 'anti-aliasing' glass filters (the part you actually clean) on some of their camera models with tin oxide. Why? I have no idea. However, the list also says that I should be using E2 on my 5D, but I've been using regular Eclipse and haven't experienced any problems. I found this photo.net page where some folks were talking about this: Advantage to sensor cleaning with Eclipse 2?
I doubt that the regular Eclipse would harm your camera, but why take a chance? Besides, you already have the E2. As I mentioned earlier, you should try wiping your sensor again with the E2 and see if that clears it up. It might take 2-3 more wipes to get it fully cleaned. Make sure you attach the Pec-Pad to your spatula correctly. You don't want anything but the Pec-Pad to touch the surface of the sensor. One drop of the fluid on the tip should be plenty. I normally use two drops, one on either side of the tip. The stuff dries almost instantly. Only wipe one time in each direction, then change the pad. Wiping multiple times with a single side of a pad just moves the dirt around.
BTW, as kirbic mentioned, the purer the alcohol the better it will clean. Although the prices that he quoted are debatable. I've seen several places selling Eclipse for a lot more than $2 per ounce. This place charges $15.51 for a 2oz. bottle of Eclipse, and $16.66 for a 2oz. bottle of E2. That's about $7.75 per ounce for Eclipse, and $8.33 per ounce for E2.
Good luck!
Mick
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06/17/2008 04:12:11 AM · #8 |
| on my old 10D, i used to spit on the sensor and wipe it clean with my tshirt...it was free and left no streaks :) |
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06/17/2008 08:56:12 AM · #9 |
I notice from Mick's first posted link (what sensor swab ect) that neither Eclipse, or E2 is factory approved for Canon or Nikon cameras.
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06/17/2008 11:01:14 AM · #10 |
When you say "a streak"...what are you talking about? Does it go away or is it still there?
Can you post a picture of it?
I scratched my sensor from "end to end" during a cleaning.
The scratch is permanant and can be seen at f-stops above f11.
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06/17/2008 11:24:20 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by Mick:
BTW, high purity alcohol costs much less than Eclipse. Depending on where you buy, you can get buy 32 ounces of pure alcohol for about the same the price as a 2 ounce bottle of Eclipse. |
Yes, it is less expensive... but you darn well better know what you are buying. This is the bare minimum, and is not as good as Eclipse. Notice that it has <= 0.001% residue on evaporation; that's 10ppm. It will cost you approx. $10 USD per half-liter, or about $0.60/fluid ounce, whereas Eclipse will cost about $2.00/fluid ounce. Eclipse, however, claims <=5ppm residue on evaporation, 2x better than the above referenced product. You can buy methanol with this spec, however it will cost you more like $30 per half-liter, or about $1.80/fluid ounce. The less expensive ACS grade that I linked *does* work, and leaves no visible residue. Don't, however, buy any less pure grade than the one I referenced. If you don't see a specification for "evaporated residue" or "total non-volatile matter" or the spec is not less than 0.001%, don't use it. |
Does this residue accumulate if the sensor is washed several times? Will I have close to 100ppm residue if I wash the sensor 10 times over 10 weeks? |
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