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06/10/2008 11:11:06 AM · #1
Interesting. A friend of mine that shoots stock exclusively on istockphoto told me they were getting quite picky on photos containing people - face showing or not. Well, I just ran into the same thing. :-/

This image was accepted without question at BigStockPhoto, but denied at iStockPhoto.

Kayak Cruising

Sure makes it interesting. :-)
06/10/2008 11:24:42 AM · #2
That's odd. I'm preparing a shoot with my son but I don't want to use his face, only his arms, abs and sweat. I'll be using some pics for stock so I guess I'll have him sign a model release, just in case anyone asks. Do you think Shutterstock would ask as well? Have you tried or will you?
06/10/2008 11:34:19 AM · #3
Originally posted by Jac:

That's odd. I'm preparing a shoot with my son but I don't want to use his face, only his arms, abs and sweat. I'll be using some pics for stock so I guess I'll have him sign a model release, just in case anyone asks. Do you think Shutterstock would ask as well? Have you tried or will you?

Life keeps me too busy to do much more than two stock photo sites for now. :-) So, to answer your question about Shutterstock...no, not going there currently. I'm sure there are others that could tell you how strict Shutterstock may be on model releases. My guess is they may be similar as they're one of the stronger stock sites out there.
06/10/2008 12:29:24 PM · #4
iStock is sensibly cautious, and successful. There are a lot of potential law suits out there aimed at reaping a reward from successful companies like iStock. As a result, recently iStock changed their policy to get releases for people who can be identified by friends etc. In your photo, if I lived up the same street as that man, I could identify him. More often than not, shy photographers would shoot back-side photos to avoid having to get model releases. With the change of policy, some of those drear photos are no longer acceptable and the risk of being sued is reduced. By the way, I think your photo is useful. Can you get a model release? If not, how about shooting a similar photo on the lake this summer?

If in doubt, get a release. Sons, daughters... no matter. It is easy enough.

Message edited by author 2008-06-10 12:30:13.
06/10/2008 12:52:17 PM · #5
Originally posted by pineapple:

If in doubt, get a release. Sons, daughters... no matter. It is easy enough.


I've been wondering about this actually. How does a photographer get a model release for someone in a car, on a bike, in a plane, on a boat, where it is physically impossible to not only reach the person but speak to them. It seems that in most cases unless a person is just standing there, or a planned shot, it is hard not easy to get a model release.

Thanks
06/10/2008 01:19:36 PM · #6
Thinking about the other side of the coin (not the photog's side but the models side), the policy most likely benefits the model since they frequently get compensation.
06/10/2008 01:25:28 PM · #7
Originally posted by pineapple:

... By the way, I think your photo is useful. Can you get a model release? ...

Thanks. :-) As for a model release...not happening. The guy was a couple hundred feet out on the lake. I had the 'Bigma' loaded while shooting for the 'Boats' challenge and saw this guy heading out. Looked like a shot worth grabbing.

Minor bummer is the PP work I had to do to remove various labels, etc... from the kayak, cooler, and the back of his vest. I'll still probably do ok with it on BigStockPhoto. ;-P
06/10/2008 02:18:42 PM · #8
Another example of why we should rid the world of lawyers.
06/10/2008 03:16:30 PM · #9
Originally posted by d56ranger:

Thinking about the other side of the coin (not the photog's side but the models side), the policy most likely benefits the model since they frequently get compensation.


In that case, such images are restricted to editorial usage - use in which no item is being sold. iStock does not sell editorial images. Shutterstock does. I am not sure about other microstock agencies.
06/10/2008 03:19:20 PM · #10
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by pineapple:

... By the way, I think your photo is useful. Can you get a model release? ...

Thanks. :-) As for a model release...not happening. The guy was a couple hundred feet out on the lake. I had the 'Bigma' loaded while shooting for the 'Boats' challenge and saw this guy heading out. Looked like a shot worth grabbing.

Minor bummer is the PP work I had to do to remove various labels, etc... from the kayak, cooler, and the back of his vest. I'll still probably do ok with it on BigStockPhoto. ;-P


I know the feeling. Kayaks and canoes have all sorts of little copyrighted thingies on them in places one does not expect... been there done that. And I have some good shots of people on lakes in boats that would make good stock images but no model release either. Usually, silhouettes are acceptable without model releases...
06/11/2008 05:21:48 PM · #11
Originally posted by pineapple:

Originally posted by d56ranger:

Thinking about the other side of the coin (not the photog's side but the models side), the policy most likely benefits the model since they frequently get compensation.


In that case, such images are restricted to editorial usage - use in which no item is being sold. iStock does not sell editorial images. Shutterstock does. I am not sure about other microstock agencies.


dreamstime sells editorial as well as yaymicro
06/12/2008 06:12:32 PM · #12
Here is a list of agencies that you can submit editorial images:

- Mostphotos
- Shutterstock
- Cutcaster
- Dreamstime
- Featurepics
- YayMicro
- Alamy
- Photoshelter

Message edited by author 2008-06-12 18:12:45.
06/13/2008 12:17:20 PM · #13
One more to add to this list of editorial agencies:

- Zymmetrical
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