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05/08/2008 01:37:24 AM · #1
Please help me understand:

This photo is DQ'd:


DQ message: You must create your entry from a single capture, or from a a series of captures solely for increased detail, and not to show the same subject in multiple locations/positions.

This photo is not DQ'd:


But doesn't it show "the same subject in multiple locations/positions"?

This is probably already being discussed, but I couldn't find a thread doing so.
05/08/2008 01:47:14 AM · #2
Very interesting... did you ask SC the question?
05/08/2008 01:47:39 AM · #3
Hmm both are advanced editing, very interesting indeed.

Creepy I read iamwoman's mind when I replied lol.

Message edited by author 2008-05-08 01:48:45.
05/08/2008 01:47:45 AM · #4
Looks like it violated the same rule, just wasn't caught. It is a shame that Time Lapse was taken from the ruleset though.
05/08/2008 01:50:36 AM · #5
I bet it is DQ'd now !
05/08/2008 01:59:06 AM · #6
Originally posted by salmiakki:

I bet it is DQ'd now !


Well, that would be unfortunate. Instead, I think the lamb shot should be re-included.
05/08/2008 02:08:58 AM · #7
They both break the rules but I guess nobody reported the snowboarder, probably assuming someone else already had.
05/08/2008 05:30:20 AM · #8
The image in question is still under review.

The process for a DQ review is as follows:

1. During voting, somebody requests that we review the photo by clicking the appropriate link.
2. Site Council votes DQ, no DQ, or Request Proof (if needed)
3. Site Council requests proof (if the vote went that way), then waits at least 48 hours for the photographer to submit the original(s).
4. Once the originals are received, Site Council votes to validate or to DQ.

The first request to review this photo came in on 4 May at 18:27 server time. We requested proof on 5 May at 19:10 and received it on 7 May at 00:24. This has not yet received enough votes but is a very likely DQ.

~Terry
05/08/2008 06:17:43 AM · #9
Thank you for explaining the exact process I had been wondering about that.

I wish we didn't need rules, but I guess we can't compete without them. Maybe I wish none of us competed with one another but then we would just be another face to photobucket heh.
05/08/2008 10:33:41 AM · #10
Thanks for explaining, Terry.

Once I opened my big mouth, I was concerned the person would get DQ'd because of it. I merely thought I had missed some savvy editing trick that made the one legal and the other not.

05/08/2008 11:13:14 AM · #11
Don't sweat it redjulep, it's the rules and it would be unfair to the other photographer if this photo snunk by. Would be better if this wasn't a rule at all, I think it has great photographic merit to be able to combine several images of the same subject. Such as a photo of an artist drawing in different positions in his studio. It isn't graphics art, it is just creative photography or should be anyway.
05/08/2008 11:21:15 AM · #12
We'll keep an eye out to see fair results.
They are both excellent photos, well done.
Everyone knows people are always preferred over sheep, just kidding :-)
05/08/2008 11:23:50 AM · #13
The review on the second shot is now complete, and it too has been disqualified. FWIW, both of these shots are precisely what were trying to allow with the short-lived change implemented Jan. 1, but the administration became a nightmare. It's very much too bad, IMO, that this is out of bounds. Both are very well done.
05/08/2008 11:25:27 AM · #14
both of these shots where outstanding, and deserve their own ribbons on time lapse!
05/08/2008 11:41:31 AM · #15
It's tricky to set rules up that allow for creativity, but also make sure it stays a photograph. Problem is that the same techniques can be used in a number of ways, and often it is a judgment call. You can't use a judgment call as a rule, however.

Message edited by author 2008-05-08 11:41:43.
05/27/2008 01:05:31 PM · #16
So, if I take a shot in a single location, using a single firing of my shutter, but multiple firings of strobes to get the same person in different locations in the shot, does that DQ the shot?
05/27/2008 01:11:56 PM · #17
Originally posted by mhlambi:

So, if I take a shot in a single location, using a single firing of my shutter, but multiple firings of strobes to get the same person in different locations in the shot, does that DQ the shot?


No, it does not. That's perfectly legal since it's a single capture.

If you submit such a shot, it is very likely that we will need to request your original to validate the editing, but as long as you've followed all the rules that's nothing to be alarmed about.

~Terry
05/27/2008 01:12:39 PM · #18

Oh...beaten to it.

Message edited by author 2008-05-27 13:13:07.
05/27/2008 01:14:36 PM · #19
I think that Lagdon needs to do an expert challenge soon so every one can play with all the things that are not allowed can be played with!

PS I would so not enter that chalenge lol

Message edited by author 2008-05-27 13:14:57.
05/27/2008 01:27:56 PM · #20
Originally posted by JulietNN:

I think that Lagdon needs to do an expert challenge soon so every one can play with all the things that are not allowed can be played with!


i second that emotion, why do they have to be so few and far between? cant we at least have one every other month?
05/27/2008 03:01:47 PM · #21
DQed now
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