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02/07/2008 08:24:56 AM · #1 |
Watch this amazing Light(and editing) technique
End Times
Do you have any information about her techniques?
- King of lights?
- Light setup?
- PP techniques?
Any attempts or clues for similar results are appreciated.
Thanks in advance
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02/07/2008 08:28:31 AM · #2 |
| Well... looking into the eyes of the children, you see that she uses a whole lot of lights! ;) |
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02/07/2008 09:15:37 AM · #3 |
Video
You can see her set-up in this vid.
She uses a ring flash but on many images the circle reflected in the eyes, gets cloned out.
Message edited by author 2008-02-07 09:19:11. |
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02/07/2008 09:22:14 AM · #4 |
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02/07/2008 09:41:20 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by pawdrix:
Video
You can see her set-up in this vid.
She uses a ring flash but on many images the circle reflected in the eyes, gets cloned out. |
thnx for the link.
What strikes me, is that she uses two umbrella's at the bear's eye level, together with the ring flash. This creates a face without any shadow.
I am just guessing PP involves diffuse glow, then sharpening.
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02/07/2008 09:45:34 AM · #6 |
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02/07/2008 10:42:36 AM · #7 |
looks like umbrella left/right, ringlight on face but powered low. One light on hair from behind and down and another light on the background.
Then an HDR what looks like photomatix, or a lot of high pass filtering- probs vivid light, a bit like Dave Hill.
Oh, and some weird fascination with making children cry. |
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02/07/2008 10:51:52 AM · #8 |
I saw this in a magazine last week. I did not enjoyed it at all. The lighting was interesting, but the subject matter was just wrong.
In the article she states that she has received numerous complaints about her show on this. She states that all the children where basically crying when they came in or they gave them a lollipop and then took it away from the child to make them cry.
For me personally, making a child have an emotion that strongly just to capture it, is wrong. Making an adult having that emotion is different, as they know what is happening.
I guess, what I am saying, is that she deliberately makes the child cry, and for me that is just so wrong on so many levels. |
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02/07/2008 11:00:16 AM · #9 |
It certainly is strange. But then again, it made her a big big big name in photographic circles, seemingly overnight.
Her work of Shakira and stuff is great though. But i do think that she's a one trick pony when it comes to photography. Every picture i've seen of hers looks more or less the same. |
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02/07/2008 11:14:23 AM · #10 |
| I hae a feeling she made her name overnight from this shoot. not as a photographer, but from her views |
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02/07/2008 11:20:22 AM · #11 |
discussed here
and here
brought up again here
and here
So, we have been discussing her for almost 2 years at dpc. Hardly famous overnight, I think. :)
Some of the threads may answer some of your other questions, as well. |
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02/07/2008 11:30:43 AM · #12 |
I recently had to recreate her look for the magazine I work for. I tried to emulate the lighting as much as possible, but I think I got my best results from post processing, here’s what I did.
First I cut out the skin and put it on its own layer -> then I did a high pass on the whole photo and set that layer to hard light -> make the skin the top layer, above the high pass and run blur -> surface blur on the skin, just set it to your liking -> then I made 2 overlay layers one for dark areas and one for light areas, I would brush black over the dark areas at a 40% opacity and white over the light areas then ran a Gaussian blur on both those layers.
I'll upload my photos to my site, the magazine has already ran them so I can use them in my port, so you can see the outcome.
It may not be exact but its pretty close.
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02/07/2008 11:37:49 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by koriley:
I recently had to recreate her look for the magazine I work for. I tried to emulate the lighting as much as possible, but I think I got my best results from post processing, here’s what I did.
First I cut out the skin and put it on its own layer -> then I did a high pass on the whole photo and set that layer to hard light -> make the skin the top layer, above the high pass and run blur -> surface blur on the skin, just set it to your liking -> then I made 2 overlay layers one for dark areas and one for light areas, I would brush black over the dark areas at a 40% opacity and white over the light areas then ran a Gaussian blur on both those layers.
I'll upload my photos to my site, the magazine has already ran them so I can use them in my port, so you can see the outcome.
It may not be exact but its pretty close. |
cool! post'em!!! :) |
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02/07/2008 12:12:15 PM · #14 |
I might also add, this is not from her monkeys or kids shoots, but from something she did for another regional magazine that uses the type of effects.
This is a link to my site where I have the pages that I tried to recreate her look, per previous post.
kevinoriley.com
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02/07/2008 12:35:20 PM · #15 |
The technique looks pretty similar to the approach I took here, but with a couple more lights (I only had two)-
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02/07/2008 01:48:18 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
I guess, what I am saying, is that she deliberately makes the child cry, and for me that is just so wrong on so many levels. |
Come on. I got kids in the same age of the kids used in these pics. They cry over small things a couple of times each day and have forgotten why in a couple of minutes. Making them cry by taking their lollipop does not hurt them. One might even claim it is good for them, learning them to cope with disappointment. |
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02/07/2008 02:00:34 PM · #17 |
Well, it is just ow I see it. Would you like somebody to take away your D3 when they hae said that it is yours and you can keep it, you get all excited and go to go and play, and whap, no I was just joking. Doing that to an adult is fine (well nto really) but a child has no concept or understanding of this.
Just my 2 pennies worth |
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02/07/2008 02:14:50 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by mark_u_U:
....snip.... Making them cry by taking their lollipop does not hurt them. One might even claim it is good for them, learning them to cope with disappointment. |
Ouch, that's pretty harsh! In my opinion, the way to live was given to us in Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, which is simply, "Be excellent to each other."
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVXGC896Jdw
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02/07/2008 02:34:32 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
... For me personally, making a child have an emotion that strongly just to capture it, is wrong.
... I guess, what I am saying, is that she deliberately makes the child cry, and for me that is just so wrong on so many levels. |
I agree 100%. Making the kids cry on purpose is downright mean!!! Unbelievable.
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02/07/2008 02:44:16 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
... For me personally, making a child have an emotion that strongly just to capture it, is wrong.
... I guess, what I am saying, is that she deliberately makes the child cry, and for me that is just so wrong on so many levels. |
I agree 100%. Making the kids cry on purpose is downright mean!!! Unbelievable. |
DITTO. Tehnically they are great photos but the subject doesn't sit well with me. |
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02/07/2008 02:57:23 PM · #21 |
I don't remember where, but i read an article about the lady who does some of Jill's post processing work. She didn't give away much though.I will try and find the article, but the photos are heavily processed
Message edited by author 2008-02-07 14:59:07. |
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02/07/2008 04:29:49 PM · #22 |
PP looks a lot like Lucis Art to me.
//www.lucisart.com/pPortraitsImg.htm
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02/07/2008 07:00:25 PM · #23 |
| Funny, but only a couple hours before stumbling on this thread, I was at a local Barnes & Noble, and I saw the magazine cover with Mike Rowe on the cover. I didn't pick it up, but when I saw it I immediately thought to myself "whoever took that picture is REALLY influenced by Jill Greenburg". I guess you could say I was right. :) |
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02/07/2008 11:39:17 PM · #24 |
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WExtRfBDPXo
wow get this... they totally said jill gave them candy and took it from them, not to say that some of the kids were professional actors... or she had there parents makethem cry |
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02/07/2008 11:43:30 PM · #25 |
This was discussed a while back here at DPC in this thread.
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