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11/23/2007 10:16:41 AM · #1
Itchy hands.. was thinking of getting an upgrade
5D is out of the question as it is only 3fps, can't do sports with it.

Am using a 30D currently...
A used 1d mk2/N or a new 40D?


11/23/2007 11:49:27 AM · #2
Originally posted by zerocusa:

Itchy hands.. was thinking of getting an upgrade
5D is out of the question as it is only 3fps, can't do sports with it.

Am using a 30D currently...
A used 1d mk2/N or a new 40D?


I'll admit I'm a 1 series junky but here is my take. I'd take the AF system on the 1 series over any consumer camera anyday. The FPS isnt that great of a difference between the 1DMKIIn and the 40D, while I do use burst mode on occassion to try and catch "the moment" it doesnt do any good to capture it when its out of focus. I have printed 20x30 posters for customers with a good ISO 3200 exposure and they look amazing. The 1DMKIIn has some features that make it a better choice for me between the 1DMKII and 1DMKIIn.

But as far as the 5D not being a good sports camera? I know pro's who shoot with a 5D as a second body and they do amazing, of course you need to know your sport and your timing needs to be better, but hey isnt that why they make the big bucks anyway? :)

MattO
11/24/2007 12:01:48 PM · #3
well true, 3fps is workable for sure. i use the xti obviously, and have an amazing amount of awsome shots, the thing that youd loose with the 5d is the amazing 1.6 crop. its a BIG advantage in any field sport. youve got what seems to be the perfect lens setup, so i wouldnt worry about it. but you can always just get over it and get the longer glass. is there that big of a difference over the II and the IIN?

Message edited by author 2007-11-24 12:02:49.
11/24/2007 12:35:00 PM · #4
Why is the loss of the 'amazing 1.6 crop' such a concern? You're just getting back the rest of the picture, where's the loss?
11/24/2007 12:43:24 PM · #5
Originally posted by routerguy666:

Why is the loss of the 'amazing 1.6 crop' such a concern? You're just getting back the rest of the picture, where's the loss?


A 1.6 crop could well be considered useful in some circumstances, as the DOF at any given 'effective' focal length will be slightly deeper. Of course, one could always crop a full-frame file and achieve near enough the same effect.
11/24/2007 01:43:36 PM · #6
workable won't cut it for me at 3fps, i am still lacking in the skiils dept :p

quantity over quality to get these kind of shots consistently




stuffs that i hv ady know, AF performance of non 1 series DLSR will nvr surpass 1series. No fight there

how is the IQ compared? a used 1dmk2 is nearly 2x of a new 40d(body only)
is the AF and 8fps alone good enuff for me to make pass 40d?
40d is no slouch at 6fps

dunno how's the AF tho :D

thanks for the opinions, keep em coming

11/24/2007 01:46:27 PM · #7
Having recently switched to a 1D mkII, I have to say that the AF blows away the x0D cameras completely.
11/24/2007 06:09:15 PM · #8
Badminton isn't really a sport, you could prob get by with the 5D
11/24/2007 07:48:37 PM · #9
1DMKII are going for less then $1800 on Fredmiranda.com all day long. Some of the Better ones still command about $2200. The 1DMKIIn will bring from $2400-$3000 depending on shutter clicks and cosmetic condition. I still say the IQ, AF, and FPS will win over anything the consumer cameras can bring to the table. That said there are pro's that shoot with X0D's all the time and make money doing it.

MattO
11/25/2007 12:18:17 AM · #10
Well, in support of the 40D here. I had a 1D (mk1, so I can't comment on the mkII).

As far as the 1.6x crop vs FF of the 5D, I'd say that the benefit is, among others, that the AF points cover a larger area of the subject (assuming in sports that our subjects can be far away) then the 5D with the same lens, and thus your AF/visual confirmation may be more accurate more often.

Yes, cropping will get the same image, but I bet given a 1DmkII/n/III, 40D or 5D, the 5D would be the last choice, no matter how good it is, for sports shooters. But hey, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

If you can afford a 1D body, it might be the way to go. Of course, the 40D doesn't have as many AF points, or as advanced AF system, but the center point is more sensitive at f2.8 (since it has the double cross-sensitive sensors) and has all AF sensors cross-sensitive up to f5.6. And I can say for 100% sure that the 40D rocks the 1D, and my images have gone from good to great, IMHO.

By the way, awesome pictures, especially the first one. I'd love to see more!

Message edited by author 2007-11-25 00:19:44.
12/06/2007 01:34:43 AM · #11
took the plunge and got meself a beat up 1dmk2
some of my works with the 'new' cam over here

thanks
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