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11/17/2007 12:22:54 AM · #1
I was just wondering what people do to backup/archive their photos and their post procesed work. I'll start.

This is what I do for all my photos:
1) Keep a working copy of all photos on hard drive 1 (RAID 1)
2) Keep a backup copy of all photos on a separate hard drive (no RAID)
3) Double backup all photos to CD, two separate vendors

Please share your ideas....thanks!

Paul
11/17/2007 12:29:29 AM · #2
Robocopy backups to an external drive. Periodically make dvd archives and take them to the bank.
11/17/2007 12:30:05 AM · #3
It's interesting that you should ask... I wrote this article for my blog earlier this week:

//www.setzler.net/2007/11/13/my-photography-backup-strategy/


11/17/2007 12:48:48 AM · #4
- Copy from CF card to computer
- Create a subfolder called "Originals" underneath the folder to where I copied from the CF card. I now work in that destination folder, not in the "Originals" folder
- Run my Robocopy script to copy all new, edited, and original files to one of my NAS server's drives, as well as to another computer.
- Robocopy many images (not necessarily all of them) to a portable hard disk that I usually take with me, offsite, just in case there is a fire or earthquake.
- If images are for a client or to give as a gift, I burn the edited images (along with the Originals folder) to CD/DVD. If I am not parting with the originals, then I skip the burning of that folder.
- If I ever forget to copy to NAS or another computer, I have a scheduled job that runs the Robocopy routines.

It's all either routine or scheduled to run automatically, so it sounds like a lot to do, but it really isn't.


11/17/2007 12:49:13 AM · #5
Store all my image files in an external hard drive.....
11/17/2007 12:54:27 AM · #6
1) Copy CF cards to internal drive
2) Immediately mirror internal drive to NAS Raid 5 drive

Most initial work is performed on the internal drive (because it's fast and, by comparison, the NAS is slow). Any work done on the internal drive is mirrored out to the NAS from time to time.

3) Everything a customer sees is uploaded to smugmug. They are, essentially, my "offsite" backup. (as a side note: I now have nearly 39,000 images on smugmug taking up 140Gb of disk space)

4) When a customer is pretty much done with any further changes, I'll copy that customer's folders off to an external drive (USB or Firewire). Then turn the drive off when done copying.

So my archival backups are stored on external drives ... not DVDs. The reason why is because it would simply take TOO many DVDs (and by extension, too much time) to backup the files to DVD.

As an example, last week's wedding now sits on my drive taking up 33.8Gb of disk storage. That is everything for one customer ... engagement pictures, bridals, wedding, reception, slide show. To back up everything to DVD will require 8 DVDs. And if you've ever burned a DVD you know how long it takes to burn just one and I don't have that kind of time available to me.


11/17/2007 01:38:58 AM · #7
Originally posted by dwterry:

So my archival backups are stored on external drives ... not DVDs. The reason why is because it would simply take TOO many DVDs (and by extension, too much time) to backup the files to DVD.


...but more importantly, CDs/DVDs have a limited shelf life before going bad (maybe only five years?)

11/17/2007 05:53:32 AM · #8
//www.taobackup.com/ possibly a little OTT ;)

Message edited by author 2007-11-17 05:54:55.
11/17/2007 08:13:56 AM · #9
CF card to computer, cull the uglies

Upload remaining originals to Smugmug for off-site back-up storage in private gallery

Edit copies of the rest, burn CD with both originals and edits. I never rename originals but keep the file numbers, and prefix the file name with a small "e" to designate edited files.

Upload final edits to Smugmug in a different gallery (usually another private one).

Every quarter or as necessary, whichever comes first, back-up the fave images to an external hard drive to make room for new masterpieces! Sadly, there is lots of room, but not so many masterpieces. :)

The major flaw in my dual back-up plan is that you can't upload RAW originals or PSD files to Smugmug. (Though when I shoot RAW, it's usually RAW + jpg.) I'm considering backing up to my personal website domain in a hidden folder, but frankly, I just don't go back and edit old pix that much. I can hardly keep up with what I shoot!

11/17/2007 09:32:31 AM · #10
this is my approach Still haven't worked out all the kinks though.

11/17/2007 09:57:46 AM · #11
Originally posted by AperturePriority:

Originally posted by dwterry:

So my archival backups are stored on external drives ... not DVDs. The reason why is because it would simply take TOO many DVDs (and by extension, too much time) to backup the files to DVD.


...but more importantly, CDs/DVDs have a limited shelf life before going bad (maybe only five years?)


I read this too but I have cd's here that are 10 years old and doing fine so not sure how true that is.
11/17/2007 12:27:08 PM · #12
Thanks. This is somewhat on the lines of what I'd like to get to and get away from the CD backup.

How reliable is the data transmission to NAS drives in comparison to that transferred over an SATA cable?

Originally posted by dwterry:

1) Copy CF cards to internal drive
2) Immediately mirror internal drive to NAS Raid 5 drive

Most initial work is performed on the internal drive (because it's fast and, by comparison, the NAS is slow). Any work done on the internal drive is mirrored out to the NAS from time to time.

3) Everything a customer sees is uploaded to smugmug. They are, essentially, my "offsite" backup. (as a side note: I now have nearly 39,000 images on smugmug taking up 140Gb of disk space)

4) When a customer is pretty much done with any further changes, I'll copy that customer's folders off to an external drive (USB or Firewire). Then turn the drive off when done copying.

So my archival backups are stored on external drives ... not DVDs. The reason why is because it would simply take TOO many DVDs (and by extension, too much time) to backup the files to DVD.

As an example, last week's wedding now sits on my drive taking up 33.8Gb of disk storage. That is everything for one customer ... engagement pictures, bridals, wedding, reception, slide show. To back up everything to DVD will require 8 DVDs. And if you've ever burned a DVD you know how long it takes to burn just one and I don't have that kind of time available to me.
11/17/2007 12:43:34 PM · #13
Originally posted by routerguy666:

Originally posted by AperturePriority:

Originally posted by dwterry:

So my archival backups are stored on external drives ... not DVDs. The reason why is because it would simply take TOO many DVDs (and by extension, too much time) to backup the files to DVD.


...but more importantly, CDs/DVDs have a limited shelf life before going bad (maybe only five years?)


I read this too but I have cd's here that are 10 years old and doing fine so not sure how true that is.


I'm not sure how true either. Seems to depend also on the media you use and the quality of the burner. Taiyo Yuden media seem to be very good.
11/17/2007 12:47:55 PM · #14
Copy everything to a "new folder" from the card.
Go through and delete the ones I don't want
Copy that folder to a CD
Copy folder to my external hard drive
Delete contents of new folder so it's ready for the next one.
11/17/2007 01:02:24 PM · #15
Time Machine
11/17/2007 02:06:12 PM · #16
I have an external hard drive. Every once in a while, I use a free archiving program called Allway Sync to move new stuff to it.
11/17/2007 08:26:03 PM · #17
Thanks for responding. There were 2 responses with NAS or some other networked backup device. Here is my question:

How secure is that to virus attacks? For example, say there was a virus that deleted every .jpg, .RAW, .psd file, wouldn't those configurations be prone to attack?

I see backup/archival in 2 levels:
1) Protection against drive failure
2) Protection against malicious attack

Most suggestions solve #1, but not so much to #2.

Any comments?

Originally posted by AperturePriority:

- Copy from CF card to computer
- Create a subfolder called "Originals" underneath the folder to where I copied from the CF card. I now work in that destination folder, not in the "Originals" folder
- Run my Robocopy script to copy all new, edited, and original files to one of my NAS server's drives, as well as to another computer.
- Robocopy many images (not necessarily all of them) to a portable hard disk that I usually take with me, offsite, just in case there is a fire or earthquake.
- If images are for a client or to give as a gift, I burn the edited images (along with the Originals folder) to CD/DVD. If I am not parting with the originals, then I skip the burning of that folder.
- If I ever forget to copy to NAS or another computer, I have a scheduled job that runs the Robocopy routines.

It's all either routine or scheduled to run automatically, so it sounds like a lot to do, but it really isn't.
12/17/2007 11:10:50 PM · #18
The is one experience of uploading DNG files to SmugMug

//blogs.sun.com/pmonday/entry/metadata_cas_and_the_future

Anybody having the same experience?
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