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02/01/2004 05:48:00 PM · #1


be as mean as you want
02/01/2004 05:56:13 PM · #2
She is absolutely beautiful. I can see the wisdom in her eyes.
02/01/2004 05:57:54 PM · #3
This photo is begging to be a high contrast black and white :)
02/01/2004 05:58:58 PM · #4
Tyler

Very nice.
I like the composition
The lighting is very well done
I think it is just a tad to soft
Also I think a little more detail could be pulled out of the shadows on the right side and the eyes.


02/01/2004 06:01:41 PM · #5
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

This photo is begging to be a high contrast black and white :)


I agree also. The high contrast b&w would really bring out the textures in the face. The reason people like taking pictures of older people are that there wrinkles seem to tell a story.
02/01/2004 06:08:15 PM · #6
Originally posted by Calvus:

Tyler

Very nice.
I like the composition
The lighting is very well done
I think it is just a tad to soft
Also I think a little more detail could be pulled out of the shadows on the right side and the eyes.

I think Calvus said it all very well.
I'll just add that she's got a personality that you've captured. Nice job.
02/01/2004 06:14:11 PM · #7
As I earlyer read in a forum, a photograph is suposed to cause an impression in the person that sees it. And this one certainly do!

I was watching it and my grandmother came in to my thoughts. Her delicated but rincled skin, the goodness in her eyes, the passion for life in the way she fight to outlive her heart disease. The way she showed her love for me in hevery cook she made...

... It's a terrible expressive image that you got there. I just love it.

And the black and white sugestion... I would love to see it happening.

Suberb!

Tanks for sharing.

..oh! With all the emotions you brought up I almoust forgot: exelent ligtning and I love the DOF, the way th hear is a bit out of focus.
02/01/2004 06:34:40 PM · #8

you know i did a black and white and couldn't decide which one to post.. here is the B&W

thanks for the comments so far.
02/01/2004 06:42:16 PM · #9
I really liked the color version, but the fact that I couldn't really see anything of the eyes bothered me. The black and white makes the eyes so much more visible, and I LOVE it. A wonderful, wonderful shot.
02/01/2004 06:58:37 PM · #10
A great face and a good shot.

The left to right light is maybe a touch hot - notice the blown highlights in the hair and collar. Maybe turning her slightly more towards the light or using a small reflector to throw a touch of light into the shadows would have allowed you a more even exposure while retaining the great feel to it.
02/01/2004 07:00:23 PM · #11
I like the color shot. The color in the cheeks makes the shot for me. Very nice portrait.
02/01/2004 07:03:13 PM · #12
//www.pbase.com/image/25681877

I like the more extreme level adjustment on this one.. just my opinion...

02/01/2004 07:07:01 PM · #13
The color version is good, but the b&w version is fantastic. A bit sharper, more eye detail. A wonderful shot.
02/01/2004 07:23:40 PM · #14
this is a very striking photo...i think i like the desaturated one a bit better.. it stirs up some deep feelings in me which is i think what a photo should do anyway...only suggestion i could make is that some film grain might help enhance the overall mood of the photo..

Message edited by author 2004-02-01 19:25:48.
02/01/2004 07:36:38 PM · #15
I made this edited version, then I saw Setz's post. I did basically the same, bumped up the levels and contrast.


Great photo by the way.
02/01/2004 08:18:05 PM · #16
this is what i was talking about...added film grain and levels adjusted..
the reason i like the grain is because some parts of her face looks too flat wihtout any texture. at some parts it even looks blurred out even thou that is not the case...this is true for B&W version of course.(hope you dont mind the editting)



Message edited by author 2004-02-01 22:57:27.
02/01/2004 09:39:26 PM · #17
Yeah, i see your points. I do like the added grain i think... it adds to the texture of the face, and blends the smooth parts of the face in nicely. I think i would prefer less grain however than theodor's version, I think i liked cbeller's contrast the best perhaps. I think Setz's version was much to dark. Highlights were blown and details in the shadow were also lost. I realize that it is an artistic decision and one COULD desire that.. but i think like the detail in the face and would want to keep it, however, i agree contrast really adds to the depth of the picture. here is my newest version of my response to the feedback. (i will just put a thumbnail link here so i don't kill all of you with dialup)
ps.. my image looks a little darker in photoshop than on this site... is that because of the working space i am using in photoshop?
02/01/2004 09:47:02 PM · #18
i also thought that i might have done an overkill with the grain... but i like to be on more "extreme" side of things i guess... but your image i thought reached a happy medium.. nice combination of all suggestions.

a quick note: i just noticed the strand of hair on top of the right eye...may be getting rid of it by cloning or something might be a good idea...

Message edited by author 2004-02-01 21:49:57.
02/01/2004 09:55:48 PM · #19
John's b&w has a lot more character. I'm not sure about the softness, though. The grain was way overdone in Theodor's shot.

A very effective shot.

Just my 2 yen
02/01/2004 09:56:57 PM · #20
thanks for the input
yeah... i thought perhaps you were exagerating your point... but a point well taken...

and yeah i dunno what i think about that hair. it IS a little distracting, however her hair is sort of loose and here and there.. i guess since it is just ONE perhaps it is a problem... maybe i could leave it if it was 5 or more.... give or take a few hairs.
02/01/2004 10:01:43 PM · #21
Originally posted by leaf:

thanks for the input
yeah... i thought perhaps you were exagerating your point... but a point well taken...

and yeah i dunno what i think about that hair. it IS a little distracting, however her hair is sort of loose and here and there.. i guess since it is just ONE perhaps it is a problem... maybe i could leave it if it was 5 or more.... give or take a few hairs.


I think your recent edit is pretty good :) My light/dark version is a close representation of how I would have exposed the shot. I would normally meter for the highlights in a shot like that, which would not have allowed anything to blow out, but it would have gone darker on the right side of the image... which is not a bad thing :)

02/01/2004 10:47:15 PM · #22
Fantastic photo, black and white, or the original. It just has a certain quality I really cant describe, or explain.

Great job.
02/01/2004 10:57:05 PM · #23
i modified it a little more and just wanted to show it in this thread see what you guys think...here it goes:



ps: original photo by: "leaf"

Message edited by author 2004-02-01 22:58:00.
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