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09/13/2007 01:29:29 PM · #1
OK, I've been reading the threads, trying to find info on the best and worst photo book service providers.

I used MyPublisher several years ago and was happy enough with the result, but wouldn't have said it was stupendous by any means. Still, for the cost, it was OK, and everybody involved was happy with the result.

However, it did do one thing I was thoroughly irritated by. After going through and sizing all the photos properly, I sent the book to the publisher and watched as their software compressed all the images down to what IT thought was acceptable before sending. Uh-uh -- not acceptable. Don't go messing around with the quality of my images.

Which brings me, as I said, several years into the future. And to a project involving not just images, but pages and pages of text. This book is for my wife and I and tells our dating/marriage/honeymoon story not just in photographs but in words. We're not talking a couple of lines of caption for a photo here and there. I'm not even close to done with my half of the story and it's around a dozen pages in Word. (She's a published writer, and as you can tell from the length of this post, I don't mind putting words to the page myself.)

If I were to design the kind of book I have in mind using MyPublisher (unless something has changed), I'd have to create images with the text on them, insert them into the pages, and then watch as they were compressed when I sent the file for publishing. And compressed images featuring text, just NOT a good idea.

I don't really care how I have to create the pages. Proprietary software like MyPublisher uses, or creating a Quark/InDesign desktop publishing file, or making the pages in Photoshop. (OK, I do care, I'd much prefer the InDesign route...) Ultimately, all I care about is the quality of the images AND the way the text looks on the page.

Lulu, at one point, seemed an ideal solution. I could have created the pages, PDF'ed 'em and it would have been great. But then I read reviews about print quality, so before anybody warns me off, I recognize the problems with that route.

It sounds like Asuka does a great job with photos (I need to check into them), but has anybody had any experience with text on pages AND photos?
09/13/2007 02:59:22 PM · #2
it sounds like the sort of project blurb is all about.

They are more of a photo book with text publisher, rather than an album publisher.

May be worth a look. I've only ever seen their samples at tradeshows, never tried it myself, but they look good.
09/13/2007 04:08:17 PM · #3
Originally posted by Gordon:

it sounds like the sort of project blurb is all about.

They are more of a photo book with text publisher, rather than an album publisher.

May be worth a look. I've only ever seen their samples at tradeshows, never tried it myself, but they look good.


They look great. However, I'd like someone else's interpretation of this (reproduced from their terms and conditions):
8. Proprietary Rights.

8.1 Your Content. For purposes of this Agreement, “Content” means any and all postings, messages, text, files, images, photos, video, sounds, works of authorship, feedback, bug reports, or other material. Blurb does not claim ownership in any Content that you publish, display, submit, upload or otherwise transfer (“post”) to the Service, including Content that you include in Books that you submit to Blurb for print services (“Book Content”). You hereby grant to Blurb (a) a non-exclusive, worldwide, fully-paid and royalty-free license to reproduce and distribute Book Content for the purpose of printing the Books that you order or that you authorize for purchase by others and any other purpose you authorize, pursuant to this Agreement; and (b) an unrestricted, irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, fully-paid and royalty free license (with the right to sublicense through unlimited levels of sublicensees) to publicly display, create derivative works of, and otherwise use in any and all media (now known or later developed) throughout the world any other Content that you post to the Service. You represent and warrant that: (i) you own or otherwise have the right to grant the license set forth in this section for the Content (including Book Content) that you post on the Service, or for our print services to have them printed in a Book, and (ii) your Content does not violate the privacy rights, publicity rights, copyright rights, or other rights of any person or entity.

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Message edited by author 2007-09-13 16:11:25.
09/13/2007 04:15:26 PM · #4
That license is intended to allow them to use your stuff as samples to promote their services, but it grants them far more than that -- I myself wouldn't agree to that, as it's currently written.
09/13/2007 04:41:13 PM · #5
No way would I agree to Blurb's conditions. I have used Asuka on several occasions, but only a little with text. I did THIS BOOK with a title, a some spine text and a poem on the inside, and it came out great. Back when they were sending out samples, theirs had a moderate amount of text, and it all looked good. When you register your business with them, you can order your first book for half price. I think I'd register, put a sample project together and order it to see how it turns out. Good luck!
09/14/2007 01:19:25 PM · #6
I've received the following response (it is in the public forum, not private) from the Blurb, answering my questions posted there about the photographers' rights. I think that it is a satisfactory answer, and that there are no problems with using them for printing.

I also noticed last night that there is a link to them off of flickr.

-Serge

Originally posted by blurb official response:


Hi srdanz –

Ah, legalese. Fun isn’t it? ;)

In a nutshell, we’re not saying that we own your book content at all. Section 8 of the Terms and Conditions is actually referring specifically to content that’s submitted to the Blurb web site. Things like forum posts, book tags, user feedback, etc. For this kind of user-submitted web content, we require a broad license to do whatever we need to with it as part of running our web site. That’s pretty standard for any web site that has user-contributed content.

Book content (meaning content submitted through the BookSmart application as part of the bookmaking process) is not included in this broad license at all. For clarity on this issue, check out our End User License Agreement. Section 6 of that document it clearly states "you shall own all Content that you include in any Books you submit to Blurb for production."

Anyway, I can definitely see how that can be confusing. Hope this helps!

Jack
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