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08/09/2007 10:21:41 PM · #1 |
Looks like she just got smashed minutes before I came by. This is about 100 yards from my home. Had many "baby" snakes lying around. Looks like this one gives live birth...if that's possible. However, others say there are eggs visable.
Anyone know what kind of snake.
Edit: South Louisiana, near a lake and pine.
Message edited by author 2007-08-09 22:47:34. |
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08/09/2007 10:23:29 PM · #2 |
Yup!!! A dead one!! Hehehehe.
....../me...running away now.
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08/09/2007 10:24:50 PM · #3 |
You can see the egg sacks - they are whitish placentas that harden when they sit in the air. Looks like she just gave birth to her eggs and they were squished. :(
She doesn't look poisonous, she doesn't have a diamond head or pointed nose and she's pretty short to be a constrictor. I would say a large garden snake
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08/09/2007 10:27:05 PM · #4 |
| maybe pine or gopher? what state you in? |
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08/09/2007 10:28:40 PM · #5 |
It was about 3 feet long.
Originally posted by CalamitysMaster00:
You can see the egg sacks - they are whitish placentas that harden when they sit in the air. Looks like she just gave birth to her eggs and they were squished. :(
She doesn't look poisonous, she doesn't have a diamond head or pointed nose and she's pretty short to be a constrictor. I would say a large garden snake |
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08/09/2007 10:29:32 PM · #6 |
Louisiana. Near fresh water lake and pine.
Originally posted by LoudDog:
maybe pine or gopher? what state you in? |
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08/09/2007 10:34:35 PM · #7 |
Well then, I would say A Cotton Mouth. They are found in LA and can be very poisonous. :(
What do you think?? Here is pic of one.
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08/09/2007 10:37:20 PM · #8 |
Looks very cotton mouth to me too. Judging by the head and body thickness. Are you near water?
Message edited by author 2007-08-09 22:39:20.
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08/09/2007 10:42:49 PM · #9 |
Looks like a banded watersnake to me.
Message edited by author 2007-08-09 22:49:21. |
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08/09/2007 10:45:49 PM · #10 |
Hmm, from looking at pics of Cottonmouths online, it looks like they have a pretty specific diamond-type pattern....which this snake seems to be lacking.
I'm in Illinois, but when I saw it, I kind of though of Fox snakes. |
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08/09/2007 10:49:14 PM · #11 |
Yes...near fresh water lake. This snake was crossing the street heading for the lake about 40 yards away.
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Looks very cotton mouth to me too. Judging by the head and body thickness. Are you near water? |
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08/09/2007 10:50:04 PM · #12 |
| Check out Diamondbacked Water Snake...found in LA and looks a lot alike to me! |
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08/09/2007 10:53:07 PM · #13 |
| I promise, it is a banded watersnake. |
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08/09/2007 10:56:58 PM · #14 |
| Its what I call a good snake. |
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08/09/2007 10:58:16 PM · #15 |
| After looking at snakes all over the net....I'm leaning towards Diamondback Water Snake. |
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08/09/2007 11:01:40 PM · #16 |
I don't mean to be a dick, but it's venomous...not poisonous. As far as ID...that is about as close as I will get to a snake, so I'm no help.
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08/09/2007 11:06:22 PM · #17 |
Venomous = injected...a snake and even bees are venomous.
Originally posted by drewbixcube:
I don't mean to be a dick, but it's venomous...not poisonous. As far as ID...that is about as close as I will get to a snake, so I'm no help. |
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08/09/2007 11:12:20 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by kenskid:
Venomous = injected...a snake and even bees are venomous. |
Right, and poisonous = ingested...lead paint is poisonous.
ETA: Again, I'm not trying to be a dick, my original post was in response to
Originally posted by CalamitysMaster00:
:snip:
poisonous
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Message edited by author 2007-08-09 23:15:11. |
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08/09/2007 11:33:35 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by keegbow:
Its what I call a good snake. |
me, too. :/ |
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08/10/2007 12:11:55 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by drewbixcube:
I don't mean to be a dick, but it's venomous...not poisonous. As far as ID...that is about as close as I will get to a snake, so I'm no help. |
Sorry, but venom is just a further refinement describing the type of poison it is, irregardless of the delivery method. Venom is a type of poison. Formaldehyde does not become venom if someone injects it into your arm. Venom does not change to poison if you swallow it and it is absorbed into your system via open ulsers. Both the people who refer to it as venom and the people who call it poison are correct. Herpetology 101.
From Merrium Webster:
Main Entry: 1ven·om
Pronunciation: \ˈve-nəm\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English venim, from Anglo-French, from Vulgar Latin *venimen, alteration of Latin venenum magic charm, drug, poison; akin to Latin venus love, charm — more at win
Date: 13th century
1: poisonous matter normally secreted by some animals (as snakes, scorpions, or bees) and transmitted to prey or an enemy chiefly by biting or stinging; broadly : material that is poisonous
2: ill will, malevolence
Yes, you are being a dick ;) |
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08/10/2007 12:14:52 AM · #21 |
[quote=kenskid] Venomous = injected...a snake and even bees are venomous.
It has nothing to do with the delivery method, please see my other post on this matter. |
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08/10/2007 12:14:53 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by Gatorguy:
Yes, you are being a dick ;) |
Speaking of injections...
/me runs and hides.
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08/10/2007 03:28:48 AM · #23 |
There are only a few poisonous snakes indiginous to Louisiana:
Cottonmouth aka Water Moccasin
Copperhead
Western Diamondback
Eastern Diamondback (both rattlesnakes)
Coral
That is it. We were taught what to look for and what they were in 1st grade because there are so many. That COULD be a water moccasin (I VERY seriously doubt it because something just doesn't look right) but without an open mouth or a closer photo of the head, it is hard to tell. It is obviously none of the others as the copperheads there are actually an orangy yellow, the rattlers have rattles, and the coral snakes are tiny and colourful. You probably have some form of black snake on your hands. Harmless and smell a little like skunks :) |
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08/10/2007 09:56:31 AM · #24 |
By your own work you show that venom is injected. Seems Webster put in broadly : material that is poisonous. Notice the word BROADLY. I feel webster put that in to make EVERYONE correct in layman's conversation on poison vs venom.
Webster's definition is much like the kids soccer match or baseball game where "we don't keep score, because we are all winners"...
Originally posted by Gatorguy:
Originally posted by drewbixcube:
I don't mean to be a dick, but it's venomous...not poisonous. As far as ID...that is about as close as I will get to a snake, so I'm no help. |
Sorry, but venom is just a further refinement describing the type of poison it is, irregardless of the delivery method. Venom is a type of poison. Formaldehyde does not become venom if someone injects it into your arm. Venom does not change to poison if you swallow it and it is absorbed into your system via open ulsers. Both the people who refer to it as venom and the people who call it poison are correct. Herpetology 101.
From Merrium Webster:
Main Entry: 1ven·om
Pronunciation: \ˈve-nəm\
Function: noun
1: poisonous matter normally secreted by some animals (as snakes, scorpions, or bees) and transmitted to prey or an enemy chiefly by biting or stinging; broadly : material that is poisonous
2: ill will, malevolence
Yes, you are being a dick ;) |
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08/10/2007 10:17:41 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by Gatorguy:
Originally posted by drewbixcube:
I don't mean to be a dick, but it's venomous...not poisonous. As far as ID...that is about as close as I will get to a snake, so I'm no help. |
Sorry, but venom is just a further refinement describing the type of poison it is, irregardless of the delivery method. Venom is a type of poison. Formaldehyde does not become venom if someone injects it into your arm. Venom does not change to poison if you swallow it and it is absorbed into your system via open ulsers. Both the people who refer to it as venom and the people who call it poison are correct. Herpetology 101.
From Merrium Webster:
Main Entry: 1ven·om
Pronunciation: \ˈve-nəm\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English venim, from Anglo-French, from Vulgar Latin *venimen, alteration of Latin venenum magic charm, drug, poison; akin to Latin venus love, charm — more at win
Date: 13th century
1: poisonous matter normally secreted by some animals (as snakes, scorpions, or bees) and transmitted to prey or an enemy chiefly by biting or stinging; broadly : material that is poisonous
2: ill will, malevolence
Yes, you are being a dick ;) |
Pretty funny that a definition is quoted while using the non-word "irregardless ". |
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