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07/13/2007 03:27:47 PM · #1 |
This might be a simple question but how do you make this kind of border?
 (from ursula)
I tried searching the forum but I got solid borders tutorial. This is what I came up. link.
It isn't what I was trying to achieve.
I want to try wherein the pinstripe border is within the image like ursula's
I am using photoshop cs2. Thank you very much for the help.
Message edited by author 2007-07-13 15:32:29. |
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07/13/2007 03:34:03 PM · #2 |
Use the rectangular marquee tool and drag a box, evenly spaced or not, (zooming in and having the rulers showing helps to get it centered) then using edit, stroke, inside, choose a color and size, then while it's still selected, edit, fade to your liking, or not. Can be done in a new layer and adjust the blending opacity do do the same.
In a case like this, it looks like a 1 pixel stroke in a light powder Blue/Grey and probably didn't fade it, as it some of the tones would be showing through it.
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07/13/2007 03:44:37 PM · #3 |
| Thank you very much! I got it. |
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07/13/2007 05:13:48 PM · #4 |
| To add to what Brad said, an easier way of getting the selection centred without the rulers and zooming work would be to select everything and then use Select/Modify/Contract. You enter a value in pixels - say about 10 pixels - meaning the contracted selection is smaller than the original selection by 10 pixels on either side. |
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07/17/2007 03:52:10 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by xion:
To add to what Brad said, an easier way of getting the selection centred without the rulers and zooming work would be to select everything and then use Select/Modify/Contract. You enter a value in pixels - say about 10 pixels - meaning the contracted selection is smaller than the original selection by 10 pixels on either side. |
thank you for the kind help, xion! that made it easier! |
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07/17/2007 04:02:18 PM · #6 |
OMG,
I'm going to have to try that out. Neither could I figure this one out. I was so bold as to create some evely spaced guides (View/New Guide). I'll have to play with the Edit/Stroke option.
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07/17/2007 04:08:44 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by xion:
To add to what Brad said, an easier way of getting the selection centred without the rulers and zooming work would be to select everything and then use Select/Modify/Contract. You enter a value in pixels - say about 10 pixels - meaning the contracted selection is smaller than the original selection by 10 pixels on either side. |
Cool!
I knew you were good for something.
I spoke too soon. If I select all, the option to contract is not available. Only if I drag a box at less than 100% is that available.
hmmmmm
Message edited by author 2007-07-17 16:14:35.
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07/17/2007 06:13:00 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Brad:
Originally posted by xion:
To add to what Brad said, an easier way of getting the selection centred without the rulers and zooming work would be to select everything and then use Select/Modify/Contract. You enter a value in pixels - say about 10 pixels - meaning the contracted selection is smaller than the original selection by 10 pixels on either side. |
Cool!
I knew you were good for something.
I spoke too soon. If I select all, the option to contract is not available. Only if I drag a box at less than 100% is that available.
hmmmmm |
Same here...contract not available... |
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07/18/2007 08:44:58 AM · #9 |
If you do "Select" - "All".....you should be able to go to "Select" - "Border" instead of contract.
[ edit ]...nope that adds a feathering to the selection....nevermind....
Message edited by author 2007-07-18 08:47:43. |
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07/18/2007 09:21:53 AM · #10 |
I use a cumbersome work around. In PS7
New layer, select all, fill (layer will be discarded).
Edit > transform (Ctrl-T)- there are 2 proportion boxes on the tool bar with a chain between them. Link them and put in about 95%. Apply. keep selection active. Hide layer.
Make new layer.
Edit > Stroke. Set stroke to center and size and color.
There must be a more streamlined way, but I haven't got there yet.
Delete filled layer.
Message edited by author 2007-07-18 09:22:58. |
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07/18/2007 09:26:05 AM · #11 |
For the record, in the graphic arts biz a border like this is called an "inline"...
If you want to locate your inlines very precisely, you need to use guides as has been stated. To use guides, you need to have rulers showing to set them up (it's best if your rulers are set to "pixels" in preferences), and you need to have "snap to/guides" enabled in the view menu. What some of you may not know is that you can adjust the start point of your rulers by dragging from the upper left intersection of the rulers. So what this means is you can magnify your image way up, using the upper left as a starting point, and drag your guides to, say 10 pixels in from the edge both horizontally and vertically.
Then zoom back out and drag the ruler starting point to the lower right corner of the image, and zoom in on that corner to set the last two guides. Finally, go back to full-frame and drag your selection so it snaps to the guides. Once the selection is made, go to "view/clear guides" to get rid of 'em, because as long as you can see them you can't get an accurate view of your inline when you stroke it.
Actually, the same is true of the selection itself; if you use the selection to stroke, the marching ants obscure the effect of the stroke and you can't really see what you're doing when you change color or fade. For this reason, in Advanced Editing I do the whole thing a little differently: I set the guides and make the selection as above, but then I use "edit/copy" to copy the selection, erase the guides and selection both, then use "edit/paste" to paste the selection as a new layer above the BG layer, then do my stroke in "layer properties", which allows me to go back to it as often as I want to change either its color, its width, or its opacity.
R.
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07/18/2007 11:48:53 PM · #12 |
| This is why I love DP - I've learned so much here! Now I know how to do inlines! |
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07/19/2007 12:01:30 AM · #13 |
I
create a new layer
select all
stroke with some odd color I don't plan to use. I set stroke to the inside and set the thickness(is it width) to how far away I want the inline from the edge.
I then use the magic wand to select the border I made.
Hit the delete key.
Hit select > invert
use the stroke command again to make the new border, usually 1-2 pixels.
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07/19/2007 12:06:42 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
To use guides, you need to have rulers showing to set them up (it's best if your rulers are set to "pixels" in preferences) |
Or you can leave the preference set to whatever you normally use them for, if not pixels, and simply right click the ruler and select pixels. |
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07/19/2007 12:09:35 AM · #15 |
| I create a new layer, select all, contract by whatever with I want and clear. Then fill with whatever colour I want the inline, and select that area. Then contract a little more and clear again. Then adjust opacity to get the inline to show more or less. That way you can also erase portions of the inline if you don't want it in places. |
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07/19/2007 12:19:57 AM · #16 |
Here's a way to locate a solid line pretty precisely without guides:
-Select > All
-Select > Modify > Border (set to 1)
-Select > Inverse
-Select > Modify > Contract (1-16 pixels allowed -- repeat if necessary for larger values)
-Select > Save Selection to new channel (I named mine "inline")
-In Channels palette select the Alpha Channel ("inline") and hide the other channels
-Using Curves or Levels, get rid of the one or two pixels of gray, so you have a solid black and white mask
-Select the RGB Channel and hide the Alpha Channel
-Activate Layers Palette
-If for Advanced or Expert editing challenges (not Basic), create a new layer for the border
-Select > Load Selection > "inline"
You should now have a hard-edged selection to which you can apply a stroke. If on a separate layer, you can make partially transparent; if not, you can set to less than 100% opacity as you apply the stroke.
If you want to see the effect without the marching ants, hit ctrl-h (PC) or cmd-h (Mac) to hide the current selection -- you can toggle the selection visibility at any time, even when you have an active dialog box ... |
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07/19/2007 12:34:39 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
To use guides, you need to have rulers showing to set them up (it's best if your rulers are set to "pixels" in preferences) |
Or you can leave the preference set to whatever you normally use them for, if not pixels, and simply right click the ruler and select pixels. |
Dang I never knew that :-)
R.
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07/19/2007 12:35:12 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
If you want to see the effect without the marching ants, hit ctrl-h (PC) or cmd-h (Mac) to hide the current selection -- you can toggle the selection visibility at any time, even when you have an active dialog box ... |
Dang, I never knew that either. That's GREAT...
R.
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07/19/2007 01:32:59 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by xstream:
If you do "Select" - "All".....you should be able to go to "Select" - "Border" instead of contract.
[ edit ]...nope that adds a feathering to the selection....nevermind.... |
you can still do precise "selection contraction" with a little more work:
Select -> All -> Modify -> Border
enter the border width (say, 10 px)
Inverse selection
Q (Quick Mask mode), you should see fuzzy red border
Image -> Adjustments -> Threshold (just hit OK, don't move the slider!), you should see the red border becoming sharp
Q (back to Standard mode)
done!
and then proceed as Brad said (stroke, etc)
Message edited by author 2007-07-19 01:35:04. |
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07/19/2007 02:01:53 AM · #20 |
Why is everyone making such a complicated thing out of this?
How to add an inline border:
1) One ruler
2) White-Out® pen
Problem solved!
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07/19/2007 03:35:18 AM · #21 |
It's even easier:
- Select all
- choose "transform selection" from the "Selection" menu
- enter the numbers you like as shown here for a 640 x 480 px image (be sure to have the top left corner chosen in the transformation-symbol)
- choose "stroke" from the "Edit" menu
you have to know your image dimensions, of cause
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07/19/2007 04:09:59 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by Brad:
Why is everyone making such a complicated thing out of this?
How to add an inline border:
1) One ruler
2) White-Out® pen
Problem solved! |
Ohhhhhhhhhh....that's what I am doing wrong. I was using Liquid Paper instead of a White-Out pen! Stoooooopid Aussie chicky babe!
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