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12/11/2003 02:43:35 PM · #1
Ok,

I must admit that I am getting addicted to the Rant forum.

So.. what could I rant about today?

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm...............

Money
Simplicity
and now.. Vehicles

Is it just my lack of inspiration or are they pretty boring topics?

And why do not open the relaxed rules to Registered Member also?
Isn't that racism?

OK.. that's enough ranting for today.
12/11/2003 02:51:59 PM · #2
Money sucked, and I'm a banker. I deal with enough money daily.
Simplicity rocked. Nice to see pics without all kinds of crap surrounding the subject.
Vehicles would rock if it wouldn't already be winter her.

All and all, I'll give it 3 stars (on 4)
12/11/2003 02:53:30 PM · #3
Originally posted by Jacko:


Vehicles would rock if it wouldn't already be winter her.


Tell me about it...I've got HUNDREDS of race car pictures from the summer =)
12/11/2003 04:03:12 PM · #4
Registered members are a race?
12/11/2003 04:06:51 PM · #5
Originally posted by mk:

Registered members are a race?


Supreme
12/11/2003 04:07:17 PM · #6
Stop being so cheap and pony up your $25 to become a member. Then you won't be "discriminated" against anymore. You think you deserve all the stuff this site offers for free? I'm not listening to any more complaints from people who won't pay a little money to support DPChallenge.
12/11/2003 04:28:52 PM · #7
Originally posted by glimpses:

Originally posted by mk:

Registered members are a race?


Supreme


...tightwads.
12/11/2003 04:43:38 PM · #8
Originally posted by StevePax:

Stop being so cheap and pony up your $25 to become a member. Then you won't be "discriminated" against anymore. You think you deserve all the stuff this site offers for free? I'm not listening to any more complaints from people who won't pay a little money to support DPChallenge.


Well, Steve.
You are 99% right and, yes, I have been tremendously skinflint not to subscribe so far.
DPC is definitely worth $25 and even more.

Although..

In the mean time I started my own contest site offering free membership. To attract members? Not really. I know that, at some point in the future, if the growing demand of resources will be too expensive I may be forced to ask for a little payment to members.

But I really hope to avoid that point.

There many other means to make a website profitable if it is wortwhile one(and DPC certainly is..) than to charge members.

After all, I perfectly understand, also, services which are provided on payment only.

But if you do something firstly and mostly because you like it, well, then that thing should be free.
12/11/2003 04:47:48 PM · #9
Glimpses:

The opening of your own site is independent of whether you should pay for this site or not. The fact that you run a free site doesn't affect the fact that this site needs money to operate. It has reached the point that it has been forced to ask for a little money from its members.

DPC has refused to allow advertisement here to raise revenue, and I applaud those efforts. That's why I paid my $25 to become a member. You have yet to offer a reason why you have not...
12/11/2003 04:56:35 PM · #10
Originally posted by StevePax:

this site needs money to operate. It has reached the point that it has been forced to ask for a little money from its members....

This is not completely true ... the features available on the original DPC site are still available free to registered members.

The purpose of the membership fee was/is to allow development and maintenance of additional features for the paid members: extra challenges, 10mb portfoilio space, printing service/gallery (DPC Prints), etc.

I think registered (non-paid) members do in fact see some discrete advertising(?), and we have some affiliations which can help fund the site (e.g. search for hardware through on-site links).
12/11/2003 04:58:04 PM · #11
Originally posted by glimpses:

But if you do something firstly and mostly because you like it, well, then that thing should be free.


I'm not sure if you are implying that D&L don't really like what they do and are therefore charging for it or that people should just be able to do whatever they like for free, but either way, I find this statement highly laughable.
12/11/2003 05:04:02 PM · #12
Originally posted by mk:

Originally posted by glimpses:

But if you do something firstly and mostly because you like it, well, then that thing should be free.


I'm not sure if you are implying that D&L don't really like what they do and are therefore charging for it or that people should just be able to do whatever they like for free, but either way, I find this statement highly laughable.


I am not implying at all anything like that.
As I said, I would perfectly understand even if the service would be on payment only.

However, if you allow registered members then you should show some respect for them.

And I am not implying at all that "D&L" do not have that respect.

What I do not imply but I state clearly is that Steve's statement did not show that respect.

I was ranting to have fun and there was no intention to turn this into a serious conversation. But it looks like if it hasn't been possible to avoid talking seriously.

Message edited by author 2003-12-11 17:06:44.
12/11/2003 05:10:39 PM · #13
Originally posted by StevePax:

Stop being so cheap and pony up your $25 to become a member. Then you won't be "discriminated" against anymore. You think you deserve all the stuff this site offers for free? I'm not listening to any more complaints from people who won't pay a little money to support DPChallenge.


I hear you but not everyone can do that. Right now I am dirt poor & even though I would love to join & support I can't. I do, however, plan to the first chance I get. Meanwhile, I hope I won't be hated on for it or have assumptions made as to why I haven't become a member.


12/11/2003 05:10:59 PM · #14
Originally posted by glimpses:

I was ranting to have fun and there was no intention to turn this into a serious conversation. But it looks like if it hasn't been possible to avoid talking seriously.

Didn't he say he was laughing? Maybe I misunderstood ...
12/11/2003 05:13:41 PM · #15
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by glimpses:

I was ranting to have fun and there was no intention to turn this into a serious conversation. But it looks like if it hasn't been possible to avoid talking seriously.

Didn't he say he was laughing? Maybe I misunderstood ...


He (or she? he/she is pretty anonymous) did indeed. A pity that he/she laughed when I started talking seriously.

In return he/she should have said something which would have made me laugh, but I didn't find what he/she said funny.
12/11/2003 05:15:14 PM · #16
I'm pretty sure D+L intended for the original feature set to stay free for as long as the site exists. We know there are some people who can't or don't want to pay for the extra features. That should in no way diminish their contributions to the areas in which they do participate.
12/11/2003 05:18:20 PM · #17
Originally posted by glimpses:

In return he/she should have said something which would have made me laugh, but I didn't find what he/she said funny.

I'm trying to reverse the trend. Here, try this:

My son-in-law, a senior resident at a midwestern hospital, had completed a routine physical exam on a six-year-old when the mother mentioned her concern about her son's craving for junk food. The doctor pondered on how he might get the child to see the light about his poor diet.

"So," he asked, "what do you want to be when you grow up?"

"I want to be a doctor," said the boy. I've got him now, thought my son-in-law.

"And what would you say to a boy whose mother complained about his eating so much junk food?"

Without hesitation, the youngster replied, "I ate junk food when I was a kid, and look at me now!"

- submitted to Reader's Digest by Harold R. Selfridge
12/11/2003 05:22:17 PM · #18
Paul, if I were to drop a little $ on the site could you help make my scores go up! It would be a big help.:)
12/11/2003 05:35:38 PM · #19
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by glimpses:

In return he/she should have said something which would have made me laugh, but I didn't find what he/she said funny.

I'm trying to reverse the trend. Here, try this:

My son-in-law, a senior resident at a midwestern hospital, had completed a routine physical exam on a six-year-old when the mother mentioned her concern about her son's craving for junk food. The doctor pondered on how he might get the child to see the light about his poor diet.

"So," he asked, "what do you want to be when you grow up?"

"I want to be a doctor," said the boy. I've got him now, thought my son-in-law.

"And what would you say to a boy whose mother complained about his eating so much junk food?"

Without hesitation, the youngster replied, "I ate junk food when I was a kid, and look at me now!"

- submitted to Reader's Digest by Harold R. Selfridge


New Generations are really like that! =)
12/11/2003 05:51:28 PM · #20
Originally posted by jmritz:

Paul, if I were to drop a little $ on the site could you help make my scores go up! It would be a big help.:)

That's a feature you'll have to suggest directly to the admins, as I have no access to the site code. Let me know if your work something out though ... I might have to consider trying to outbid you.
12/11/2003 06:00:54 PM · #21
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by jmritz:

Paul, if I were to drop a little $ on the site could you help make my scores go up! It would be a big help.:)

That's a feature you'll have to suggest directly to the admins, as I have no access to the site code. Let me know if your work something out though ... I might have to consider trying to outbid you.


Damn.. that's a too good idea. I should have called my site PhotoBid!
12/12/2003 12:23:55 AM · #22
Originally posted by glimpses:


In return he/she should have said something which would have made me laugh, but I didn't find what he/she said funny.


I spent all evening trying to think up funny to make you laugh but the pressure was just too great so instead I would just like to state for the record that I am a she and not a he/she, something which just results in bad mental images. KTHX.
12/12/2003 12:28:02 AM · #23
Originally posted by mk:

Originally posted by glimpses:


In return he/she should have said something which would have made me laugh, but I didn't find what he/she said funny.


I spent all evening trying to think up funny to make you laugh but the pressure was just too great so instead I would just like to state for the record that I am a she and not a he/she, something which just results in bad mental images. KTHX.

The confusion no doubt arises from the conspicuous lack of pigtails on your member icon. If you wanted to "state it for the record" once in your profile, you could avoid having to make post-by-post corrections.

Message edited by author 2003-12-12 00:28:21.
12/12/2003 12:34:42 AM · #24
Originally posted by GeneralE:

The confusion no doubt arises from the conspicuous lack of pigtails on your member icon....

Can I get a communicator badge on the blue shirt of my member icon?!? Please? Can I? Please?
12/12/2003 12:40:41 AM · #25
Originally posted by sleekr:


Can I get a communicator badge on the blue shirt of my member icon?!? Please? Can I? Please?

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