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04/04/2007 01:04:16 PM · #1
and how is it done? These three images are from the pdn 50 States collection //www.pdngallery.com/special/50states/2007/

//www.pdngallery.com/special/50states/2007/georgia.html
//www.pdngallery.com/special/50states/2007/nebraska.html
//www.pdngallery.com/special/50states/2007/ohio.html

Can someone help me with a brief analysis of the technique? I suspect some of the "artsy" filters in PS, but my limited foray into them certainly didn't yield anything remotely usable...

Thanks
DigitalDave

04/04/2007 01:06:08 PM · #2
Looks like maybe HDR plus that LucasArt filter ???

Message edited by author 2007-04-04 13:06:26.
04/04/2007 01:06:36 PM · #3
Looks like a LucisArts filter plugin ...

... beat by 28 seconds ... LOL

Message edited by author 2007-04-04 13:07:41.
04/04/2007 01:10:27 PM · #4
It is the Lucis Arts filter the Photog that is associated with that style is Dave Hill

There are 4 or 5 threads already discussing it.

Message edited by author 2007-04-04 13:28:52.
04/04/2007 01:12:44 PM · #5
Wow, you guys are quick. Now that I have a name for it, I can search around and get more info. Thanks.

04/04/2007 01:17:30 PM · #6
Originally posted by digitaldave1984:

Wow, you guys are quick. Now that I have a name for it, I can search around and get more info. Thanks.

Just remember, stay safe out there. :-)
04/04/2007 01:25:03 PM · #7
i've looked around but i can't find that filter/plug-in. :/
04/04/2007 01:27:03 PM · #8
Related to this:

Does anyone know if there's a list somewhere of available plugins (for PS), maybe with a bit of a description of what they do?

04/04/2007 01:27:43 PM · #9
//www.lucisart.com might be it
04/04/2007 01:28:06 PM · #10
Originally posted by sher:

i've looked around but i can't find that filter/plug-in. :/


Lucis Art

Damn slow fingers!

Message edited by author 2007-04-04 13:28:37.
04/04/2007 01:32:55 PM · #11
$169.00!!!! Jeeesh!
04/04/2007 01:38:05 PM · #12
Originally posted by shutterfly:

$169.00!!!! Jeeesh!


Jeeesh indeed!!!

04/04/2007 01:40:48 PM · #13
Originally posted by sher:

Originally posted by shutterfly:

$169.00!!!! Jeeesh!


Jeeesh indeed!!!


Yeah they are very proud of the plug-in.
04/04/2007 01:45:54 PM · #14
Well, theres always the 30 day demo :-D
04/04/2007 01:46:32 PM · #15
Well the first 2 are definatly "Band Art" lol

The first one is weird al yankovic

Message edited by author 2007-04-04 13:47:53.
04/04/2007 01:53:23 PM · #16
Originally posted by shutterfly:

Well, theres always the 30 day demo :-D


The thing with the demo is they only let you preview what it will look like it wont do the final process. If you try to hack it it will corrupt a file and won't allow an install of a purchased plug-in until you pay for the fix the non-refundable fee to reset a system is $100.
04/04/2007 01:55:19 PM · #17
I just don't get why this style is so popular.
Those characteristic Dave Hill shots do nothing for me.
It can work for certain things like posters and album art or magazines but that's more design and not photography.
I have a feeling that this trend won't last long and it will look and feel very dated soon.
04/04/2007 02:03:06 PM · #18
Originally posted by rswank:

I just don't get why this style is so popular.
Those characteristic Dave Hill shots do nothing for me.
It can work for certain things like posters and album art or magazines but that's more design and not photography.
I have a feeling that this trend won't last long and it will look and feel very dated soon.


It's just a taste people like, like many other styles some like and some don't, not sure about it won't last long :)

Seems nice, but you'll have to use it good because that example of LucasArt website looks horrible (the flower)
04/04/2007 02:03:19 PM · #19
This work is probably all done manually in photoshop by the artist. In fact much of the look comes from the lighting, not the editing.

In my oppinion straight lucas art effects are hideous, straight draganizer effects suck, and all these action things look cheesy if you want to be taken seriously in a 'professionals' eye. However, you can sure learn a lot from them and use them to your benefit once you see how certain looks are achieved

and as for lucas art as a learning tool, $169.00 is pretty damn cheap
04/04/2007 02:06:49 PM · #20
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

Originally posted by shutterfly:

Well, theres always the 30 day demo :-D


The thing with the demo is they only let you preview what it will look like it wont do the final process. If you try to hack it it will corrupt a file and won't allow an install of a purchased plug-in until you pay for the fix the non-refundable fee to reset a system is $100.


yeah I figured. Thanks for the info.
04/04/2007 02:10:57 PM · #21
Originally posted by Joey Lawrence:

This work is probably all done manually in photoshop by the artist. In fact much of the look comes from the lighting, not the editing.

In my oppinion straight lucas art effects are hideous, straight draganizer effects suck, and all these action things look cheesy if you want to be taken seriously in a 'professionals' eye. However, you can sure learn a lot from them and use them to your benefit once you see how certain looks are achieved

and as for lucas art as a learning tool, $169.00 is pretty damn cheap


Does anybody know of any examples that explain how to set up this kind of lighting and edit to achieve a similar effect? I find the dave hill examples are a little bit extreme, but I'm sure its a good skill to have, especially when used with a little restraint. Joey, how did you go about learning this style, cause I noticed you have a similar look in some of your shots. Cheers
04/04/2007 02:11:55 PM · #22
Originally posted by Joey Lawrence:

This work is probably all done manually in photoshop by the artist. In fact much of the look comes from the lighting, not the editing.

and as for lucas art as a learning tool, $169.00 is pretty damn cheap


As you say most can be done in Photoshop without the filter. So that being the case $169 is a good start to a new lens or tripod for some.

Why sport the cash if you can do it without the plug in. Your $25 DVD was cheap yet probably a more effective leaning tool. IMHO

Message edited by author 2007-04-04 14:13:17.
04/04/2007 02:13:44 PM · #23
Originally posted by tapeworm_jimmy:

Originally posted by Joey Lawrence:

This work is probably all done manually in photoshop by the artist. In fact much of the look comes from the lighting, not the editing.

In my oppinion straight lucas art effects are hideous, straight draganizer effects suck, and all these action things look cheesy if you want to be taken seriously in a 'professionals' eye. However, you can sure learn a lot from them and use them to your benefit once you see how certain looks are achieved

and as for lucas art as a learning tool, $169.00 is pretty damn cheap


Does anybody know of any examples that explain how to set up this kind of lighting and edit to achieve a similar effect? I find the dave hill examples are a little bit extreme, but I'm sure its a good skill to have, especially when used with a little restraint. Joey, how did you go about learning this style, cause I noticed you have a similar look in some of your shots. Cheers


Im sure you could buy Joeys DVD and find out... for $25 it seems a much better deal to me :-)
04/04/2007 02:19:50 PM · #24
Originally posted by tapeworm_jimmy:

Originally posted by Joey Lawrence:

This work is probably all done manually in photoshop by the artist. In fact much of the look comes from the lighting, not the editing.

In my oppinion straight lucas art effects are hideous, straight draganizer effects suck, and all these action things look cheesy if you want to be taken seriously in a 'professionals' eye. However, you can sure learn a lot from them and use them to your benefit once you see how certain looks are achieved

and as for lucas art as a learning tool, $169.00 is pretty damn cheap


Does anybody know of any examples that explain how to set up this kind of lighting and edit to achieve a similar effect? I find the dave hill examples are a little bit extreme, but I'm sure its a good skill to have, especially when used with a little restraint. Joey, how did you go about learning this style, cause I noticed you have a similar look in some of your shots. Cheers


Lotsa trial and error, though I don't think my 'style' looks much like that, but it is similar. That style kinda hurts my eyes :-p

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

Originally posted by Joey Lawrence:

This work is probably all done manually in photoshop by the artist. In fact much of the look comes from the lighting, not the editing.

and as for lucas art as a learning tool, $169.00 is pretty damn cheap


As you say most can be done in Photoshop without the filter. So that being the case $169 is a good start to a new lens or tripod for some.

Why sport the cash if you can do it without the plug in. Your $25 DVD was cheap yet probably a more effective leaning tool. IMHO


Then you'll prolly enjoy the next one I'm working on too... :-)

And- these filters are just controlling certain elements in photoshop. You have better control just doing it yourself. However how can you do it yourself if you have no idea how? These actions are good points to start learning from and personally I'd pay a lot more for them if I was interested in that certain look. But keep in mind this is because I do this work professionally, so I am making money at it. Not so sure if a hobbyist would want to pay that much for lucasart, it's a different market

Message edited by author 2007-04-04 14:22:35.
04/04/2007 02:26:44 PM · #25
Originally posted by Joey Lawrence:

Then you'll prolly enjoy the next one I'm working on too... :-)

What?!?!?! And you haven't asked me to do an intro?!?!?!

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