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 03/27/2007 08:59:04 PM · #1
description: take pictures of local "hoodlums" doing illegal things ie. stealing,doing drugs,vandilism,j-walking. must be actual criminal acts in progress can't be a studio shoot.

be funny to see how many of the dpc community see illegal acts in there every day lives, remeber woulden't have to be a serious crime could be litering...
 03/27/2007 09:02:13 PM · #2
When we had a gas shortage here in Seattle due to a power outage (Dec. storms), I saw some men stealing gas out of cars as we were driving by, AND I didn't have my camera then!!!
 03/27/2007 09:03:54 PM · #3
I think the must be crinimal acts is absolutely a stupid idea in more ways then one Illegal as in set up shots would be much better
 03/27/2007 09:05:29 PM · #4
Originally posted by bradshaw:
description: take pictures of local "hoodlums" doing illegal things ie. stealing,doing drugs,vandilism,j-walking. must be actual criminal acts in progress can't be a studio shoot.

be funny to see how many of the dpc community see illegal acts in there every day lives, remeber woulden't have to be a serious crime could be litering...


You trying to get us killed or beat up? This is a dangerous idea.
 03/27/2007 09:06:24 PM · #5
I can only imagine the dangers some people would put themselves in. I dont know many thugs that are OK being photographed breaking the law.
 03/27/2007 09:10:15 PM · #6
Can't participate might incriminate myself. They give 5 points for participating in a speed exhibition. That includes Flagmen, Cameramen, Line Painters.
 03/27/2007 09:11:27 PM · #7
Originally posted by xXxscarletxXx:
I think the must be crinimal acts is absolutely a stupid idea in more ways then one Illegal as in set up shots would be much better


first off that was only put there because i feel that a shot of a person actually doing something illegal is much more interesting and... you don't need to take a picture of some one getting jibbed and can be a simple crime like... oh i dont know peeing in a alley :P. no such thing as studip ideas just stupid comments

other comments ie this is dangerous

this is why i said j-walking,litering... not to scary takeing a pic of that but if you happen to see a hobo rolling a joint, or a prostitute, or even some local kids stealling in a conveince store those would be coool pics. not saying go find a murder and take a picture jeez

Message edited by author 2007-03-27 21:14:58.
 03/27/2007 09:12:31 PM · #8
my toast is locked up...


03/27/2007 09:21:44 PM · #9
I overheard some guys discussing what sounded like a mob hit on some snitch's family. I wrote down the address and I was going to call the cops, but I'm all over this challenge idea instead.

And you're damn right about peeing in the alley - blood splattered through the back of the skull and making a nice Rorschach-esque pattern on the wall is SOOOO much more interesting and entertaining.

Failing to get that shot, I'll stake out the senior center where there's been a rash of beatings and robberies.

EDIT:
Originally posted by bradshaw:
not saying go find a murder and take a picture jeez

Oh. So looks like it will be the Senior Center for sure then.

Message edited by author 2007-03-27 21:23:27.
 03/27/2007 09:23:41 PM · #10
Originally posted by xXxscarletxXx:
I think the must be crinimal acts is absolutely a stupid idea in more ways then one Illegal as in set up shots would be much better


This is the view that most of the dpcers will take... And it would definetly be better if it was real.
 03/27/2007 09:30:42 PM · #11
Originally posted by azooyorkmystery:
Originally posted by xXxscarletxXx:
I think the must be crinimal acts is absolutely a stupid idea in more ways then one Illegal as in set up shots would be much better


This is the view that most of the dpcers will take... And it would definetly be better if it was real.


ya for real but if this were to be done i woulden't be too upset with studio work being allowed although it would make it much less interesting i thought of this more of a social experiment of how much we actually do see poeple around us (or are selves) breaking the law. i am not one to put down others work but i would have to say i perfer a picture of a random on the street over a nude in the studio any da (even better a nude random on the streets!!!)<--- public nudity another law being broken oh my easy to think of why is that :P
 03/27/2007 09:34:25 PM · #12
I nominate this thread for the 'Funniest Thread of 2007' award.
 03/27/2007 10:00:44 PM · #13
Originally posted by jhonan:
I nominate this thread for the 'Funniest Thread of 2007' award.


I was thinking "goofballiest."

On the other hand, the top-notch photographers here would probably throw themselves into it. Aside from their families' grieving, it could really open the top spots in the challenges afterward!
 03/27/2007 10:03:22 PM · #14
I see illegal stuff all the time... but generally not in public.
 03/27/2007 10:24:54 PM · #15
just as an aside.

If I see a crime take place, and I photograph it, am I somehow involved (in the crime), now? Would I be considered part of the guilty party?

I was thinking of news reports I've read of people videotaping fights (illegal ones) and stuff, and how the camera person is arrested, too.

Would this be much different?
 03/27/2007 10:38:17 PM · #16
Originally posted by karmat:
just as an aside.

If I see a crime take place, and I photograph it, am I somehow involved (in the crime), now? Would I be considered part of the guilty party?

I was thinking of news reports I've read of people videotaping fights (illegal ones) and stuff, and how the camera person is arrested, too.

Would this be much different?


no, the reason those people are arrested is because those are usally shot by dumb school kids who are egging the fighters on, as long as you are not pushing the person to do the act you can not be held responsible for there actions. another example of illegal fights being video taped are like random street fights and those people would be arrested because yet again they are part of the people who have organised the fight.
 03/27/2007 10:43:24 PM · #17
i would think, though, at the very least I could be subpeoned (sp?) for evidence, if it was discovered I had it.

If I were to take pictures of a bank robbery, or mugging, or rape, or Wal-Mart shoplifting spree, then enter those shots in an online contest, I would feel, I don't know exactly, but a bit weird. Kinda like I aided and abetted because I didn't do something to stop it, or to assist in apprehension.

I dunno. The overall idea might work, but it would need some serious "tweaking" to get it "safe" and not have a bunch of entries that violate the ToS.
 03/27/2007 10:49:02 PM · #18
Creepy idea. Really reinforces the dissociation of people from one another, and the general apathy that's prevalent for bad things happening. Nothing wrong with a dark challenge, but an anti-social and amoral one seems, well, creepy to me.
 03/27/2007 11:10:50 PM · #19
Before and after pics of the photgraphers might be interesting if the hoods see them shooting.
Does withholding evidence (seeing the crime, having good evidence and not turning it in) seem right?
I don't think that this is all in the spirit of DPC's aims and interests, at least, not as I feel about it.
The whole package just does not seem a safe or responsible game.
03/28/2007 02:15:24 AM · #20
Originally posted by karmat:
i would think, though, at the very least I could be subpeoned (sp?) for evidence, if it was discovered I had it.

If I were to take pictures of a bank robbery, or mugging, or rape, or Wal-Mart shoplifting spree, then enter those shots in an online contest, I would feel, I don't know exactly, but a bit weird. Kinda like I aided and abetted because I didn't do something to stop it, or to assist in apprehension.

I dunno. The overall idea might work, but it would need some serious "tweaking" to get it "safe" and not have a bunch of entries that violate the ToS.


Karma, I think you're taking this way too seriously. The idea doesn't even merit consideration. Of course you'd feel weird. First, you'd be seeking out illegal acts to photograph. And then, instead of being a good citizen and providing the evidence to the police or simply calling them as soon as you see it, you'd be using it for personal gain.

I'm sorry to the original poster, but this just isn't worth pursuing in my opinion.
 03/28/2007 02:22:18 AM · #21
Originally posted by levyj413:
Originally posted by karmat:
i would think, though, at the very least I could be subpeoned (sp?) for evidence, if it was discovered I had it.

If I were to take pictures of a bank robbery, or mugging, or rape, or Wal-Mart shoplifting spree, then enter those shots in an online contest, I would feel, I don't know exactly, but a bit weird. Kinda like I aided and abetted because I didn't do something to stop it, or to assist in apprehension.

I dunno. The overall idea might work, but it would need some serious "tweaking" to get it "safe" and not have a bunch of entries that violate the ToS.


Karma, I think you're taking this way too seriously. The idea doesn't even merit consideration. Of course you'd feel weird. First, you'd be seeking out illegal acts to photograph. And then, instead of being a good citizen and providing the evidence to the police or simply calling them as soon as you see it, you'd be using it for personal gain.

I'm sorry to the original poster, but this just isn't worth pursuing in my opinion.


I must agree, I am all for unconventional ideas...but one must draw the line somewhere, and this idea just pole vaults over it to me, IMO.
 03/28/2007 02:25:21 AM · #22
Now, if you wanted to do a challenge called "sneaky" or "thief!" I could see it. Not with real crimes, but setups.
 03/28/2007 02:37:21 AM · #23
so... my trip to the senior center is canceled?

Maybe I'll go anyway just to visit.

...How about a Bingo challenge?
 03/28/2007 03:08:18 AM · #24
In Sweden it's illegal to photograph illegal activities.

It's a crime in itself.
 03/28/2007 03:31:57 AM · #25
Originally posted by xantangummi:
In Sweden it's illegal to photograph illegal activities.

It's a crime in itself.

Then a sure winner of the "illegal" challenge would be a photo of someone photographing a crime. ...is that illegal? Probably not in advanced editing.
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