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03/19/2007 01:31:27 PM · #1 |
These ads are scary and quite brutal... will they work?
//www.montanameth.org/View_Ads/index.php
Message edited by author 2007-03-19 16:19:44.
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03/19/2007 01:37:19 PM · #2 |
ill watch them when i get home
are these jsut basic tv commericals? |
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03/19/2007 01:38:55 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by Elmakias:
ill watch them when i get home
are these jsut basic tv commericals? |
They are safe for work, IMO... although they are quite shocking.
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03/19/2007 01:52:24 PM · #4 |
ooo, no i just cant
im acutally in highschool right now
i guess it falls under "desperate times call for desperate measures" |
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03/19/2007 01:55:19 PM · #5 |
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03/19/2007 02:06:37 PM · #6 |
Really like the 'bathtub' one.
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03/19/2007 02:14:26 PM · #7 |
All the other avenues haven't worked. Might as well give these a try. It's hard to say what will or won't work but this meth stuff is crazy. Here in east Tennessee it is a huge problem and it isn't uncommon at all to run into 3 or 4 scabbed up, malnourished meth heads in the store (especially a WalMart) every time you go. I've done my share of partying and drugs back in the "good ol' days" but dayum, how could you even want to try something like that when you see the after effects on a daily basis?
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03/19/2007 02:15:32 PM · #8 |
haha, watched one and laughed..
the one I watched was the one with the pretty girl saying "I wish my tyre blew out, I wish I was crippled, I wish I broke my neck, but instead I didnt crash and went to that party where I tried Meth for the first time"..
Then cut to.
Same girl in a `crack den` of sorts, looking incredibly pretty still with (full faced, good complexion) with some average make-up applied.. If you want to hit hard, show a real meth addict, sitting around in their own sh*t, losing their teeth. Not some pretty young actress with below par theatrical makeup. In these days of uber graphic horror movies (Saw 3 anyone?) people are, sadly, used to these shocks. They dont have the impact they would of had say 15 years ago.There is evern more gruesome stuff on the internet to be found these days and people are not bothered by it anymore.. its called desensitisation.
Might watch the others
(5 mins later)
yup, much the same as the first one I watched. Hands up who think this will actually change anything... uh huh.. thought so..
DISCLAIMER... Before anyone accuses me of laughing at meth addiction, I aint.. trust me. I am laughing at these `shock & awe` tatics. They will work about as well as George bushes `shock & awe` experiment a few years back..
Message edited by author 2007-03-19 14:20:31. |
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03/19/2007 02:16:09 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Elmakias:
ooo, no i just cant
im acutally in highschool right now
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Well, that's the best place to show these around, then.....
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03/19/2007 02:20:03 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by marksimms:
haha, watched one and laughed..
the one I watched was the one with the pretty girl saying "I wish my tyre blew out, I wish I was crippled, I wish I broke my neck, but instead I didnt crash and went to that party where I tried Meth for the first time"..
Then cut to.
Same girl in a `crack den` of sorts, looking incredibly pretty still with (full faced, good complexion) with some average make-up applied.. If you want to hit hard, show a real meth addict, sitting around in their own sh*t, losing their teeth. Not some pretty young actress with below par theatrical makeup.
Might watch the others
(5 mins later)
yup, much the same as the first one I watched. Hands up who think this will actually change anything... uh huh.. thought so.. |
Yes, I was wishing that they could have used some real meth-heads, but then again, once they get to the stage of looking like that it might be hard to get them to work well for the camera. Their emotions and actions can explode in a split second and you never know what'll trigger it. |
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03/19/2007 02:21:45 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Yes, I was wishing that they could have used some real meth-heads, but then again, once they get to the stage of looking like that it might be hard to get them to work well for the camera. Their emotions and actions can explode in a split second and you never know what'll trigger it. |
Then surely that would be a better advert for it?? Showing how volatile and unpredicatble they can be. and I am sure most of them would work for $10 as well :-) |
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03/19/2007 02:28:41 PM · #12 |
| Hard to show a before and after meth head video ad. |
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03/19/2007 02:31:43 PM · #13 |
Wow. I was at the emergency room a couple months ago with my father and a couple kids carried in a friend of theirs who was very much under the influence of something. He was barely able to stand on his own. As soon as the hospital staff got him into a wheelchair the other two kids bolted for the door. Reminds me a lot of the 3rd video called "friends".
Message edited by author 2007-03-19 14:32:29. |
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03/19/2007 02:37:34 PM · #14 |
I think those commercials would be more effective if everyone wasn't so de-sensitized to things like that already.
Here in Clarksville, TN, they show these commericals that are little line drawings with this guy and his dog; and his dog disses him and it's hilarious. I wish I could find those online. I think the stick people are red, and the background is yellow.
***ETA***
The ones on the top right of the page
Message edited by author 2007-03-19 14:39:48. |
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03/19/2007 02:39:29 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by dudephil:
Hard to show a before and after meth head video ad. |
not really, we all have home-videos of our kids.. how about showing a old home video of a child playing (Davey aged 3) cut to a video of them in their early teens, playing, fresh faced etc( Davey aged 14).. Then show a video of them stoned out of their heads on Meth.. (Davey aged 21)use real videos, real people. still probably wouldnt work as we are all desensitised to horrid stuff these days.
*please note, as far as I am aware, Davey isnt a methhead
Message edited by author 2007-03-19 14:40:52. |
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03/19/2007 02:41:18 PM · #16 |
Are you kidding, kids are indestructible right? That stuff only happens to other people. Just like only other people get cancer and AIDS and...
[generalization] Teenagers are a tough group to reach. As they struggle for independence and identity their egos swell to astronomical proportions making ads like this largely ineffective. Unfortunately the majority of the learning they do at that age is by trial and error and tragically Meth is one of those errors that you don't need to try much to have a serious problem. [/generalization]
The commercials definitely have their place and I'm glad they made them however the number of kids they'll actually reach is probably 1 in 10,000. Some people will complain that's not enough - but really, isn't that one life worth it? |
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03/19/2007 02:41:39 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by marksimms:
Then surely that would be a better advert for it?? Showing how volatile and unpredicatble they can be. and I am sure most of them would work for $10 as well :-) |
Though they might not take well to being told what to do, where to stand, and could end up dangerous for the film crew. |
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03/19/2007 02:42:24 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by marksimms:
Then surely that would be a better advert for it?? Showing how volatile and unpredicatble they can be. and I am sure most of them would work for $10 as well :-) |
Though they might not take well to being told what to do, where to stand, and could end up dangerous for the film crew. |
Get Jackie Chan in for protection.. duh.. |
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03/19/2007 02:42:57 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by dudephil:
Hard to show a before and after meth head video ad. |
Here ya go:
Faces of Meth |
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03/19/2007 02:46:11 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Are you kidding, kids are indestructible right? That stuff only happens to other people. Just like only other people get cancer and AIDS and...
[generalization] Teenagers are a tough group to reach. As they struggle for independence and identity their egos swell to astronomical proportions making ads like this largely ineffective. Unfortunately the majority of the learning they do at that age is by trial and error and tragically Meth is one of those errors that you don't need to try much to have a serious problem. [/generalization]
The commercials definitely have their place and I'm glad they made them however the number of kids they'll actually reach is probably 1 in 10,000. Some people will complain that's not enough - but really, isn't that one life worth it? |
I believe that the type of behaviour ("it won't happen to me") is actually hardwired, to allow us to learn and experience as much as possible without being held back by fear. So no, they won't reach most, because they CAN'T, but the few they will are worth it. |
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03/19/2007 02:48:27 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by error99:
Originally posted by dudephil:
Hard to show a before and after meth head video ad. |
Here ya go:
Faces of Meth |
They need better pictures ... like of severe cases with meth mouth and really bad sores. They should also provide videos of people who are high on meth -- it's crazy to watch. |
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03/19/2007 02:50:54 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by marksimms:
Originally posted by dudephil:
Hard to show a before and after meth head video ad. |
not really, we all have home-videos of our kids.. how about showing a old home video of a child playing (Davey aged 3) cut to a video of them in their early teens, playing, fresh faced etc( Davey aged 14).. Then show a video of them stoned out of their heads on Meth.. (Davey aged 21)use real videos, real people. still probably wouldnt work as we are all desensitised to horrid stuff these days.
*please note, as far as I am aware, Davey isnt a methhead |
Hey, an even better idea would be to take a child, film him daily, at age 15 introduce meth to him, watch him self destruct and play that video for everyone to see!! Hell yes, make it real!!
The real truth is that if they don't see someone close to them doing it, they probably won't do it themselves. Nobody that I've ever known woke up one morning and decided to try coke, heroin or meth. They had a brother or a buddy that did it and it influenced them - not necessarily forced on them but influenced them nonetheless. Videos like this may influence some of these kids to go the opposite route. Just because they wouldn't work for you doesn't mean they won't work for your neighbors kid.
Originally posted by error99:
Originally posted by dudephil:
Hard to show a before and after meth head video ad. |
Here ya go:
Faces of Meth |
I've seen those, which is why I said videos - not still pictures. |
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03/19/2007 02:59:32 PM · #23 |
My sister was on the streets living on meth for 3 years while her daughter lived with us.
These hit pretty close to home.
Have you seen an ingredient list for this stuff? I can't believe somebody figured out a way to combine all that, then decided to melt it in a spoon and inject it.
A drug straight from the depths of hell.
I appreciate the fact that they are trying. If it saves one kid from the hell of addiction it's worth it in my book - better than many other things our government spends our money on.
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03/19/2007 03:04:46 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by digitalknight:
My sister was on the streets living on meth for 3 years while her daughter lived with us.
These hit pretty close to home.
Have you seen an ingredient list for this stuff? I can't believe somebody figured out a way to combine all that, then decided to melt it in a spoon and inject it.
A drug straight from the depths of hell.
I appreciate the fact that they are trying. If it saves one kid from the hell of addiction it's worth it in my book - better than many other things our government spends our money on. |
fair play mate.. |
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03/19/2007 04:14:24 PM · #25 |
poking my head up to say these would have worked on me when I was a kid. I was the poster-child for the Just Say No campaign -- all that education we received in elementary school in the 80's scared me completely away from the stuff. I found out as I got older that I was a rare exception, though. I've had friends and family tell me that those classes just made them curious. Me, I dunno, you start telling me I'm going to lose brain cells and teeth (and stink!) and I guess I'm just a chicken. Never tried drugs once, not even as a teen when I was pretty much surrounded by people my age who smoked cigarettes and pot and were getting into the harder stuff, and I credit those tobacco/alcohol/drug-education classes in 4th-6th grade. So this stuff won't work on everyone, but it will probably work for some people. And it's better than doing nothing.
P.S. I have family members whose lives have been completely wrecked, for several generations, by meth addiction. My cousin was brought up around the stuff from infancy by his addicted mom and dad... his kids would have been, too, except that Social Services interceded. I think his nephews and nieces are still around it, though. It's nasty, horrible stuff... people who haven't seen what it does just can't imagine it. That's one thing these ads are good for, is giving other people a sense of that.
Message edited by author 2007-03-19 16:18:28. |
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