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 01/23/2007 04:49:45 PM · #1
Experimenting today thinking about the minimalism challenge. I was going to enter this in before I read the DPC definition of minimalism and found that this DNMC.

Still, I was wondering whether this shot is a yes or a no and figured I'd ask ya'll what you think.



Feedback is appreciated!

- Lee
 01/23/2007 04:51:12 PM · #2
nope
 01/23/2007 04:51:47 PM · #3
Id say yes with a different crop
 01/23/2007 04:52:22 PM · #4
This shot would get hammered unmercifully in both votes and comments.
 01/23/2007 04:52:45 PM · #5
no
 01/23/2007 04:54:27 PM · #6
this image probably shouldn't be discussed until voting is over.
 01/23/2007 04:55:19 PM · #7
Originally posted by Megatherian:
this image probably shouldn't be discussed until voting is over.


Tranquil wasn't going to enter it.

Message edited by author 2007-01-23 16:58:24.
 01/23/2007 04:55:30 PM · #8
Originally posted by Megatherian:
this image probably shouldn't be discussed until voting is over.

This wasn't submitted, dont worry :)

I was just wondering if it could stand on its own from an artistic standpoint, removed from DPC.

So far it looks like there ain't no way! haha
 01/23/2007 04:56:02 PM · #9
Originally posted by Megatherian:
this image probably shouldn't be discussed until voting is over.

... why not?
he isnt entering the shot
 01/23/2007 04:56:21 PM · #10
I don't care for this type of shot. I like some part in focus, especially if it is an animal or person.
 01/23/2007 04:57:01 PM · #11
Originally posted by Tranquil:
Originally posted by Megatherian:
this image probably shouldn't be discussed until voting is over.

This wasn't submitted, dont worry :)

I was just wondering if it could stand on its own from an artistic standpoint, removed from DPC.

So far it looks like there ain't no way! haha


yea but if someone else submitted or was planning on submitting a similar shot then this discussion could theoretically skew votes on those.
 01/23/2007 05:01:08 PM · #12
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Originally posted by Tranquil:
Originally posted by Megatherian:
this image probably shouldn't be discussed until voting is over.

This wasn't submitted, dont worry :)

I was just wondering if it could stand on its own from an artistic standpoint, removed from DPC.

So far it looks like there ain't no way! haha


yea but if someone else submitted or was planning on submitting a similar shot then this discussion could theoretically skew votes on those.


But that could be said about ANY shot posted where someone asks for opinions. I don't have a problem with a challenge being mentioned in the same thread as a photo. If he had just posted the shot and said "what do you think", this discussion would probably not be happening.
 01/23/2007 05:02:35 PM · #13
I'd like to see more examples of what people think is "minimalism" (here at DPC).

This part of the challenge description: "... but only occupying a very small portion of the image space." has me confused (hey, what else is new). I thought minimalism was something different, basic shapes, simplification to the max, little emotion, stuff like that, but, "very small portion"? Why?
 01/23/2007 05:03:25 PM · #14
Sorry, no
 01/23/2007 05:04:06 PM · #15
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Originally posted by Tranquil:
Originally posted by Megatherian:
this image probably shouldn't be discussed until voting is over.

This wasn't submitted, dont worry :)

I was just wondering if it could stand on its own from an artistic standpoint, removed from DPC.

So far it looks like there ain't no way! haha


yea but if someone else submitted or was planning on submitting a similar shot then this discussion could theoretically skew votes on those.


In my opinion, it's OK to post. I'm glad for the discussion. Where you planning on submitting a similar shot?
 01/23/2007 05:05:35 PM · #16
I like this kind of impressionistic photography.

Just because a camera can focus, doesn't mean it has to focus.

Picasso could draw and paint "realistic" figures with the best of them...he chose not to, out of an aesthetic imperative.

This image is valid for similar reasons.
 01/23/2007 05:07:42 PM · #17
Originally posted by Tranquil:


Still, I was wondering whether this shot is a yes or a no and figured I'd ask ya'll what you think.

Feedback is appreciated!

- Lee


No, because I think there still needs to be some context to why the subject is blurred. Here is an example of what I mean (a poor example granted):


EDIT: this was just about the context of "blurred" photo. Not about using this shot for minimalism.

Message edited by author 2007-01-23 17:27:24.
 01/23/2007 05:07:44 PM · #18
Originally posted by ursula:
I'd like to see more examples of what people think is "minimalism" (here at DPC).

This part of the challenge description: "... but only occupying a very small portion of the image space." has me confused (hey, what else is new). I thought minimalism was something different, basic shapes, simplification to the max, little emotion, stuff like that, but, "very small portion"? Why?


Agreed, the challenge description seems like a more appropriate title would be "Massive Amounts of Negative Space".
 01/23/2007 05:08:36 PM · #19
Originally posted by ursula:
In my opinion, it's OK to post. I'm glad for the discussion. Where you planning on submitting a similar shot?

Nope, I'm not submitting at all in fact. I was kind of irked when I actually read the challenge description because I did not interpret it in that way. I've seen a lot of art that is most definitely minimalism but is not anywhere near the challenge description.

Oh well.

Maybe someone should suggest an OOF challenge for DPC to shake it of its usual biases and technical perfection. It would be interesting to see what people make of alternative photography like that although I bet knowing DPC that it would be a challenge with a blue <7.0
 01/23/2007 05:08:40 PM · #20
Originally posted by ursula:
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Originally posted by Tranquil:
Originally posted by Megatherian:
this image probably shouldn't be discussed until voting is over.

This wasn't submitted, dont worry :)

I was just wondering if it could stand on its own from an artistic standpoint, removed from DPC.

So far it looks like there ain't no way! haha


yea but if someone else submitted or was planning on submitting a similar shot then this discussion could theoretically skew votes on those.


In my opinion, it's OK to post. I'm glad for the discussion. Where you planning on submitting a similar shot?


I'm not the forum police so I hope what I said wasn't taken the wrong way, my comment was based upon the vote that the site took and the discussions made last year. It was just intended as a friendly reminder but things do change so perhaps I was wrong.

here's one of the threads I was thinking about: Outake Rule Poll and Discussion
 01/23/2007 05:08:54 PM · #21
I would give it 2 cos its OOF
 01/23/2007 05:10:53 PM · #22
Originally posted by xXxscarletxXx:
I would give it 2 cos its OOF


This helps elucidate my previous point :)
 01/23/2007 05:11:16 PM · #23
No ... not only is it out of focus, but composition and shapes aren't interesting enough. And well no, it doesn't fit the definition of minimalism according to DPC, although it likely would fit a broader definition:

A school of abstract painting and sculpture that emphasizes extreme simplification of form, as by the use of basic shapes and monochromatic palettes of primary colors, objectivity, and anonymity of style. Also called ABC art , minimal art , reductivism , rejective art .
01/23/2007 05:12:14 PM · #24
I obviously don't know how to add a link to a previous challenge, but there is a "Minimalism" challenge in the archives!

This is what I thought it was even before looking at the previous challenge.

And yes, I know about the forum rules. I try to obey them, even if I don't agree with all of them. I guess that to me, this shot doesn't meet the challenge at all (aside from whether or not I like it) and if it was just posted as a shot no one would question whether it should be posted.

Edit because I don't know how to make the link work!

Message edited by author 2007-01-23 17:15:10.
 01/23/2007 05:17:05 PM · #25
Originally posted by karmabreeze:
Originally posted by ursula:
I'd like to see more examples of what people think is "minimalism" (here at DPC).

This part of the challenge description: "... but only occupying a very small portion of the image space." has me confused (hey, what else is new). I thought minimalism was something different, basic shapes, simplification to the max, little emotion, stuff like that, but, "very small portion"? Why?


Agreed, the challenge description seems like a more appropriate title would be "Massive Amounts of Negative Space".


I don't think you need a large negative space neccesarily:
Removing photo...

While not ideal, the subject (dog) is fairly small. Actually, I think this is going to be a very difficult challenge. I would expect to see most entries with negative space though.

Message edited by author 2007-01-23 17:18:32.
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