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01/03/2007 09:49:46 AM · #1
I'm having a really bad time editing for the internet and PC monitors with my Mac system. I've calibrated my monitor 6 times in the last three months...in Adobe RGB and sRGB and my images still look very dark on EVERY other monitor I view them on. I edtited an image on my Dell at work and in reverse it looked like something from an other planet on the Mac display.

I've been in an sRGB working space for the last three weeks, calibrated with a Huey Pantone stick. I assume that has to be better than no calibration at all? I also have used the straight Mac system calibration tools and that hasn't been great either.

I'm looking for a blow by blow, number setting list from anyone who isn't having any issues and hopefully my problems will be solved.

Thanks in advance...
01/03/2007 09:54:05 AM · #2
I use the Spyder2Pro on my Mac, no problems. You just have to make sure your monitors are set to their default factory setting and profile before you start the calibration process.
01/03/2007 10:08:52 AM · #3
Originally posted by doctornick:

I use the Spyder2Pro on my Mac, no problems. You just have to make sure your monitors are set to their default factory setting and profile before you start the calibration process.


Do you have the Spyder calibrate to a preset Adobe RGB setting or sRGB?
01/03/2007 10:17:58 AM · #4
Before you do any editing in Photoshop, go to View>Proof Setup> Monitor RGB. Macs are preset for print, so if you're editing for the internet or a PC monitor, the image won't match with a Mac's default gamma of 1.8 unless you preview it for Monitor RGB. Note however, that the reverse is also true. If you edit with that preview setting, your prints may be off. Also, remember to convert to sRGB if you're editing for internet viewing.

Message edited by author 2007-01-03 10:31:57.
01/03/2007 10:18:48 AM · #5
Pawdrix, I have the same problems. I'll be interested to see if you manage to overcome this.

I'm sure that's why some of my scores are so low!!! (Well, I can use that as an excuse can't I?) I have a webpage (using iWeb) and on the Mac everything is fine, but when viewing from a pc, the images are really dark.

01/03/2007 10:34:49 AM · #6
Originally posted by scalvert:

Before you do any editing in Photoshop, go to View>Proof Setup> Monitor RGB. Macs are preset for print, so if you're editing for the internet or a PC monitor, the image won't match with a Mac's default gamma of 1.8 unless you preview it for Monitor RGB. Note however, that the reverse is also true. If you edit with that preview setting, your prints may be too dark. Also, remember to convert to sRGB if you're editing for internet viewing.


Will do. That sounds great.

salmiakki-I'm crusin between a 4.95-5.1 on a very good image that was misprocessed. I wish I could go back in time because I'd probably be at a 6 plus score otherwise in Centered Composition. While I could give a damn about scores, my monitor issues are now on the front burner and will be resolved asap.

Message edited by author 2007-01-03 10:57:57.
01/03/2007 10:44:58 AM · #7
hmm I've also thought this can be a problem. I have a big CRT hooked up to my MBP which I do most of my editing on (when at home). I've noticed that despite calibrating both (software only unfortunately), a big difference between the two. The internal lcd is actually a lot sharper, and shows way more detail in the shadows, which is a difficulty when you have noisy images and are trying to optimise the curves. But I think the CRT matches print output somewhat better...
01/03/2007 12:17:33 PM · #8
Shannon(Scalvert)

I just read this link from Manic ( here
) and it mentions/recommends using the 2.2 PC Standard, Gamma setting as opposed to the 1.8 Mac Standard).

I get the feeling that's where my problem might be. Does that make any sense and what do you have that control set at?



Message edited by author 2007-01-03 12:20:14.
01/03/2007 12:22:45 PM · #9
Originally posted by pawdrix:

Does that make any sense and what do you have that control set at?


Yes, that would do it too. My office Mac is set at 2.2 (I did it as an experiment months ago), my home Macs are at 1.8, and all are calibrated with an Eye-One. Regardless, I still choose Monitor RGB as my proofing setup before I edit for DPC.
01/03/2007 12:24:17 PM · #10
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by pawdrix:

Does that make any sense and what do you have that control set at?


Yes, that would do it too. My office Mac is set at 2.2 (I did it as an experiment months ago), my home Macs are at 1.8, and all are calibrated with an Eye-One. Regardless, I still choose Monitor RGB as my proofing setup before I edit for DPC.


You-Da-Man!

Thanks
01/03/2007 12:31:00 PM · #11
Originally posted by scalvert:

Before you do any editing in Photoshop, go to View>Proof Setup> Monitor RGB. Macs are preset for print, so if you're editing for the internet or a PC monitor, the image won't match with a Mac's default gamma of 1.8 unless you preview it for Monitor RGB. Note however, that the reverse is also true. If you edit with that preview setting, your prints may be off. Also, remember to convert to sRGB if you're editing for internet viewing.


in elements 4.0 for mac, how do you do this??
01/14/2007 01:38:05 AM · #12
This same problem has been driving me up the wall!

I have a color calibrated monitor set to a gamma of 2.2. I run a mac. If I set photoshop to use the Proof Setup of Monitor RGB, it seems to show my image as it would be viewed in my web browser (and presumably someone else's browser). However, what I can't figure out is when I don't have the Proof Setup turned on, what am I looking at?

Why do I need to turn on Proof Setup in order to see what my image looks like on my monitor when I'm already looking at in on my monitor?
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