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09/23/2006 10:26:18 PM · #1

Anyway...is a 16-round high-capacity clip illegal in PA? It's in a Springfield XD-9 that I acquired recently and I remember hearing something about the high-capacity thing.

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Delta_6

Canon EOS-7D

09/23/2006 10:29:28 PM · #2

Dunno about where you are, sorry, it's illegal here in Westenr Australia, nice gun though, looks like a copy of Glock's principles.

09/23/2006 10:34:58 PM · #3

Yeah I think it's based off of the glock (or the HS-2000 was, which was a croation gun then they released this, which is the same, but some little differences). A few of my friends are police officers, and this one came highly recommended.

If it's illegal, I'm going to be a little mad because the guy at the gun shop didn't mention it at all to me.

Message edited by author 2006-09-23 22:35:52.

Delta_6

Canon EOS-7D

09/23/2006 10:35:43 PM · #4

Ask your mates in the police.

09/23/2006 10:36:50 PM · #5

Yeah I'm going out tomorrow in the morning, so I could do that, but I don't want to show up with something illegal.

yanko

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

09/23/2006 10:37:36 PM · #6

I'm confused. Was the low capacity clip just not getting the job done?

ShutterPug

Canon EOS-6D

09/23/2006 10:37:57 PM · #7

Dave,

You could simply call one of your local firearm dealers - a legit one with a Fed. Firearm License - and ask them. They WILL know.

Delta_6

Canon EOS-7D

09/23/2006 10:38:12 PM · #8

Just keep it hypothetical until you know - eg hey, you guys know that gun you told me about, I looked it up and liked it, is it legal to have the big magazine here?

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

09/23/2006 10:41:12 PM · #9

Originally posted by yanko:

I'm confused. Was the low capacity clip just not getting the job done?

I didn't know there was a difference to be honest. I was told to get either this or the XD .40 caliber. I chose the 9 for a few different reasons. I stopped at one place this morning and then at another...the second place had it for the same price so I got it.

Then I realized the case said "HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINE" in yellow letters...and I counted the number of holes, and it's 16, not the standard 10 that I read about...this was like a minute before this post that I realized this.

TonyT

Nikon D3X

09/23/2006 11:11:23 PM · #10

I have a Baretta 92F. It holds 15 in the clip and 1 in the pipe, making 16. They are illegal to buy new, but I think they are grandfather'ed in. I would have no problem taking mine to the range.

Buying a used one, might be different. I do know I bought a few extra clips (new) at a sporting goods store after the 15 count clips went illegal. I live in Pennsylvania.

TonyT

Tamron AF 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical for Nikon

09/23/2006 11:18:20 PM · #11

Yeah...this one was used that I bought...if it's illegal to carry concealed in PA, I'm taking it back.

vtruan

Nikon D5100

09/23/2006 11:20:24 PM · #12

After the Brady Bill failed to be renewed by Congress, I think federally it is legal. Not sure about "Liberal" states though, I think Penn. has some tougher laws than us "cowboy shoot-um bang bang" states. That would get a home invader quite nicely.

09/23/2006 11:26:42 PM · #13

Originally posted by TonyT:

Yup, Brady Bill made it illegal to sell "new" 15 round clips but you could still buy ones that were manufactured prior to a certain date. Sure makes sense doesn't it??? I believe parts of the Brady Bill expired and the large clip part may have been cancelled. To be safe get a concealed handgun permit, load it to the gills and carry it under yur seat like everyone in Texas does. Oh ya, here in TX there is a concealed license but almost every truck is carrying and a big percentage of cars. Bad guys watch out ;)

Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 IF EX DG HSM for Canon

09/23/2006 11:46:15 PM · #14

Originally posted by vtruan:

OK...cool, thanks. I searched the internet for a while and that's basically what I'm coming up with.

As far as protection, yeah...this should do the trick. I got some nice 147 grain hollow point law enforcement ammo for protection from the gun store, and of course about 200 of the cheapies from wal mart.

coronamv

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

09/24/2006 12:10:46 AM · #15

Brady bill expired earlier this year and now it is legal to purchase high capacity clips and assault rifles. It was a federal law. It actually never stopped you from owning or carring a high capacity clip just stopped the manufatures from making them. Personally I like the Hydro-shock round.

09/24/2006 12:13:14 AM · #16

Hey this could lead to a challenge ..."Gun's Don't Kill People ______ Does" Fill in the blank

Canon RF 24-105mm F/4L IS USM

09/24/2006 12:29:01 AM · #17

Originally posted by davyaldy:

Dunno about where you are, sorry, it's illegal here in Westenr Australia, nice gun though, looks like a copy of Glock's principles.

Aren't all guns illegal in Australia these days?

Tajhad

Canon EOS R

09/24/2006 12:29:19 AM · #18

Why do you need a gun ? What are you going to do with it??

09/24/2006 12:31:48 AM · #19

Originally posted by yanko:

I'm confused. Was the low capacity clip just not getting the job done?

What...you mean changing your oil ever 3,000 miles wasn't getting it done...now you have to change it every 1,500 miles.

Um well, sometimes it's nice not to have to stop reload, fill up the tank, whatever...

To me, this was just a lame response. I mean, I can go approx. 300 miles without filling up my gas tank. Now, if I could go 3,000 miles without filling up my tank I'd consider that a plus. So would most people. So why would we assume it's different in any other situation.

Unless of course you're one of those who think guns are inherently dangerous?

Message edited by author 2006-09-24 00:32:02.

Fisher Price Kid-Tough Digital

09/24/2006 12:33:27 AM · #20

Originally posted by Tajhad:

Why do you need a gun ? What are you going to do with it??

Guns don't kill people ... husbands who come home early do

Bugzeye

09/24/2006 12:34:39 AM · #21

15 round clips are illegal here in Wisconsin too. I think they are in every state but Texas.

09/24/2006 12:35:13 AM · #22

Originally posted by PhantomEWO:

Hey this could lead to a challenge ..."Gun's Don't Kill People ______ Does" Fill in the blank

Cars Kill People?

Yup...you are much more likely to be killed by a car than a handgun. The only thing banning guns does is ensure that the criminals have them and the organized crime makes even more money selling them.

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

09/24/2006 12:38:40 AM · #23

[quote=Bugzeye] 15 round clips are illegal here in Wisconsin too. I think they are in every state but Texas. [/quote
It's illegal in every state to drive drunk but more people are killed by drunk murders in a month than in a year by guns.

Most states used the old Brady Law to restrict the high capacity clips. That is now dead so most states are also invalid. Old beliefs are hard to die.

LoudDog

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

09/24/2006 12:39:54 AM · #24

If you want to argue if guns are good or bad maybe you should start a rant thread for that. I don't think this thead was started or intended as a guns are good/bad debate.