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08/02/2006 09:09:57 PM · #1
I was approached today by a company that would like me to do photo-shoots for them on a fairly regular basis. This is a good thing, I believe! But let me state for the record that I am NOT a professional photographer - I'm a graphic designer. Photography is my hobby. Therefore I don't really know what to charge. They suggested paying $500 a day (should be about 4-5 hours, in reality), plus another $500 for post-processing, if needed. Photography would be primarily group photos and occasional portrait shots.

Is this a fair rate for a "non pro" to receive? Also, is $500 for post-processing acceptable? Or would it be better to charge a "per photo" rate for those that need to be Shopped?

Lastly, I'm assuming in these arrangements, the photographer retains copyright of the material even if he/she hands them over to a company's graphic artist? Should I be making them sign a form that spells out certain ground rules?

Want to do this right,

Dave
08/02/2006 09:19:38 PM · #2
That rate sounds right to me. More if the hours go longer. When you do corporate work, don't worry too much about your rights versus theirs. If their graphis person wants to edite, they will, not much you can do about it.... but its highly unlikely they'll sell the shots to someone else, so they get what they pay for and you are protected in that way as well.
08/02/2006 11:25:32 PM · #3
Thank you
08/07/2006 02:49:46 PM · #4
I agree with idnic's comments on the copyright. Yes the copyright is yours (unless you sign a work for hire agreement). BUT ... big BUT. If you are going to do corporate work, it is not a good idea to try to sell those photos to anyone else.

If you are shooting for stock, ask permission (property releases may be required) ... and tell them what you are doing.

When I was shooting industrial (and stock) I never had anyone say NO to me shooting for stock ... even when I had their employees signing model releases etc. From time to time they'd ask me NOT to shoot stock in "proprietary" areas, but for the most part they were "flattered" to be asked.

ta ta
Melanie

08/07/2006 02:57:47 PM · #5
Unless I'm misunderstanding then the fact that they supply you with the item/subject that they want photographed and they are paying you to photograph and provide a finished product (an edited image since they're paying you to edit it, too) it seems exactly like you're already working under a "work-for-hire" setup and that you would need a contract that expressly makes note of the fact that you retain the copyright to the images. At the very least you're in a gray area where it could be argued that any work produced during the time paid for this company is, in fact, their copyrighted work. I believe you should consult a lawyer regarding the nature of the copyright with these given circumstances because I don't believe you have a very good claim on the copyright for such images.

Oh yeah, the money seems decent if that's not your full-time job. My point being you could probably make more per hour even if you're only working less time on a project but it comes down to whether you're happy with that paycheck. If I could average $100/hour for the work I do I think I'd like that but I'm having to include some other work-related stuff like marketing, calling back customers, building books, etc that you're not liable to have eating into your expenses at $100/hour so I think that dollar amount sounds nice.

Kev
08/07/2006 02:57:58 PM · #6
The rates sound good to me, especially if they are going to use you on a semi-regular basis. Sounds like a great job! Good luck.
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