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05/24/2006 11:10:02 AM · #1
When scoring for a particular challenge what criteria do you use?
I tend to look at the picture and how it fits the challenge. So a good photomight get a low score from me if I think it is off the mark as far as the challenge goes (IE: If it looks like someone just took a snapshot and titled it something like "Success at jumping Rope" Vs. someone who took the challenge and did somethingcreative to fit)

Sowhat counts more in your scoring...Picture Quality or fitting the challenge?
05/24/2006 11:36:24 AM · #2
You'll find that there are basically two camps on this issue.
Some people think that the photo quality is the only thing that counts, others feel that DPC is about the challenges, so the topic is very important, too.

In the rules it says this: "While voting, users are asked to keep in highest consideration the topic of the challenge and base their rating accordingly."

It is your vote, you must do what you think is right.

Make sure to vote either on all of the photos, or at least don't skip the ones you don't like. We all see them in random order to ensure fair vote distribution, and "cherry picking" ruins that system.
05/24/2006 11:54:39 AM · #3
Originally posted by Beetle:

You'll find that there are basically two camps on this issue.
Some people think that the photo quality is the only thing that counts, others feel that DPC is about the challenges, so the topic is very important, too.

In the rules it says this: "While voting, users are asked to keep in highest consideration the topic of the challenge and base their rating accordingly."

It is your vote, you must do what you think is right.

Make sure to vote either on all of the photos, or at least don't skip the ones you don't like. We all see them in random order to ensure fair vote distribution, and "cherry picking" ruins that system.


I agree with the DPC rules and I try to make sure I vote on all entries - I didn't make it through all the Self Portraits but I did try starting from the beginning and work on through.
05/24/2006 11:56:38 AM · #4
This is roughly my scale, with a strong bell curve favoring the 4-7 range:

1 = DNMC + I truly hope you're joking (rare)
2 = DNMC + little effort and poor image quality
3 = DNMC + not a particularly good photo either
4 = DNMC, but still a good photo or MC, but a poor photo
5 = MC, but "so what?" or DNMC, but stunning!
6 = MC + some obvious signs of effort. A little above average.
7 = MC + well above average. Good work! (a so-so subject rendered beautifully or a good concept that didn't quite reach its potential)
8 = MC + very good technically and conceptually, but some room for improvement. Could have been a contender, but probably still a top 20 finish.
9 = MC + technically and conceptually outstanding. Likely a top 10 finish.
10 = MC Wow! Wish I could've taken done that! Your ribbon is in the bag- congrats!

Message edited by author 2006-05-24 12:38:57.
05/24/2006 12:33:11 PM · #5
Originally posted by scalvert:

This is roughly my scale, with a strong bell curve favoring the 4-7 range:

1 = DNMC + I truly hope you're joking (rare)
2 = DNMC + little effort and poor image quality
3 = DNMC + not a patricularly good photo either
4 = DNMC, but still a good photo or MC, but a poor photo
5 = MC, but "so what?" or DNMC, but stunning!
6 = MC + some obvious signs of effort. A little above average.
7 = MC + well above average. Good work! (a so-so subject rendered beautifully or a good concept that didn't quite reach its potential)
8 = MC + very good technically and conceptually, but some room for improvement. Could have been a contender, but probably still a top 20 finish.
9 = MC + technically and conceptually outstanding. Likely a top 10 finish.
10 = MC Wow! Wish I could've taken done that! Your ribbon is in the bag- congrats!


this is pretty close to my system. how do you vote a technically "perfect" studio shot (i.e. properly lit and exposed) that fulfills the challenge, but in an obvious, unimaginative way (including an unimaginative, centered composition, as if for a magazine ad)?
05/24/2006 12:38:32 PM · #6
Originally posted by posthumous:

how do you vote a technically "perfect" studio shot (i.e. properly lit and exposed) that fulfills the challenge, but in an obvious, unimaginative way (including an unimaginative, centered composition, as if for a magazine ad)?


That would probably be a 7 (a so-so subject rendered beautifully)
05/24/2006 12:54:56 PM · #7
I think that Shannon has described a very useful voting system here, which I will use as my reference from now on.

We should give it a proper name. How about "The Scalvert Scale" ?

05/24/2006 01:22:21 PM · #8
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by posthumous:

how do you vote a technically "perfect" studio shot (i.e. properly lit and exposed) that fulfills the challenge, but in an obvious, unimaginative way (including an unimaginative, centered composition, as if for a magazine ad)?


That would probably be a 7 (a so-so subject rendered beautifully)

For me it's a 5, possibly a 6. It may seem unfair, but it doesn't even begin to counterbalance the people who give 1s and 2s to creative, exciting images that do not look like magazine ads.
05/24/2006 01:32:07 PM · #9
Originally posted by posthumous:

...it doesn't even begin to counterbalance the people who give 1s and 2s to creative, exciting images that do not look like magazine ads.


Counterbalancing isn't part of the voter's job description, especially since there's no way to know what scores you're counterbalancing until it's too late.
05/24/2006 01:59:23 PM · #10
Whoohooo, the "Scalvert Scale" is the way I've been doing it.
And if it DNMC but obvious effort has been made I'll try to comment constructively on the shot they DID submit. I only score a 1 if I can find no redeeming qualities.
05/24/2006 02:16:19 PM · #11
Scalvert Scale here as well.
05/24/2006 02:32:27 PM · #12
meeting the challenge automatically gets you 5 points, and goes down depending on how far you may have missed the mark. The other points come from how I feel you pulled off your image.

I guess similar to the Scalvert Scale.
05/24/2006 02:47:39 PM · #13
Originally posted by scalvert:

Counterbalancing isn't part of the voter's job description, especially since there's no way to know what scores you're counterbalancing until it's too late.


I agree, and I never have. But I've been tempted.
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