"My Uncle Miguel" This deserved a better

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

08/20/2003 09:43:18 AM · #1

//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=33245

I can't believe this got 58th position - was expecting it to win a ribbon.

Sonifo

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

08/20/2003 09:54:04 AM · #2

I don't know, faces to me really didn't show desolation. They were good pictures, but just cause they are old and wrinkled doesn't mean it's desolation.

KevinRiggs

Canon EOS-1Ds

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

08/20/2003 09:55:29 AM · #3

Dude,

Don't look at me, I gave it a 9 and explained what I saw in it. I guess this is just one of those photos that you're gonna have to be happy with the quality of what you produced regardless of how others think it did in the challenge.

glimpses

Sony DSC-F707

08/20/2003 10:20:23 AM · #4

I gave it 7.

But I gave an 8 to this pic:
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=32947

And I am surprised it did not get a ribbon...

It is a bit of a lottery, isn't it?

Just noticed that I gave 7 also to this pic:

//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=32814

which ended in 106th place.

Message edited by author 2003-08-20 10:28:55.

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

08/20/2003 10:38:44 AM · #5

Here is my opinion. (And we all know what opinions are like since everyone has one.) :) Your uncle's face is a photographer's dream. He has an amazing look with lots of character. I wish his fabulous face had been shown in a more creative way. I don't much like full-frontal views. If you had put him at more of an angle and shown a little more of his body I think it would have scored much, much higher. He definitely has a blue ribbon face. I also think that the background lighting was just a little harsh although I like the pattern of the background...it helps to add interest to the photo.

Imagineer

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

08/20/2003 10:53:37 AM · #6

I think it's a bit of a shame that there's enough of a winning pattern on this site to say that someone has a 'blue ribbon face'.

I agree with Sonifo, your uncle certainly has character and he looks sad, but not really desolate (to me). It's a good study, although too soft, too central and I think your advice is good Patricia. I too was dissappointed that my shot didn't score higher - just because of the [very real] subject matter, but as Patricia put it - the desperate people obviously didn't have 'blue ribbon' faces, or any colour ribbon for that matter.

BobsterLobster

Fujifilm FinePix S3 Pro

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

08/20/2003 10:55:32 AM · #7

This week's most underrated challenge entry:
Alone Again by patriciabrown2001
It's the lowest placing photo I gave an 8+ to...

Chez

Nikon D100

08/20/2003 10:57:48 AM · #8

For me it is not the face that is the problem. It is the tones and the contrasts, it is flat for a portrait, Although the face has character it looses its impact through in my opinion a lack of tones which would help highlight the wrinkles etc. I also agree that the backlighting is too bright and needs to be unclear, perhaps more aperture was required here. Don't get me wrong, but you asked for opinions and this is just mine. I am no expert myself.

my site has people on it in black and white, check it out and give me some of my own medicine. //www.magicmedia.co.uk

BobsterLobster

Fujifilm FinePix S3 Pro

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

08/20/2003 10:58:15 AM · #9

And what's THIS doing all the way down here?
when you are stuck in the past ... by sainaz

08/20/2003 11:02:12 AM · #10

FOLKS FOLKS!!! The photograph is not my entry though I wish it was, that gentleman (God bless him) is NOT MY UNCLE. Also the photographer is not known to me

It is a picture that I had liked very much and I stand by my decision to give it a 10

Yeah go right back to slamming it...

The picture is not fit for this site

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

08/20/2003 11:04:26 AM · #11

Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

This week's most underrated challenge entry:
Alone Again by patriciabrown2001
It's the lowest placing photo I gave an 8+ to...

Yep - I gave it an 8 as well - Great Job Patricia

ellamay

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

08/20/2003 11:06:19 AM · #12

I agree with patricia, the background is overexposed a bit, and composition not as interesting as could be.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

08/20/2003 11:10:08 AM · #13

Thank-you very much for paying me such a high compliment.
Jon... When I said the man had a blue ribbon face, I didn't mean for it to be taken so literally. Lots of houses, old buildings, flowers, etc. are blue ribbon subjects. The photographer is what makes the difference. I was just saying that so much could have been done with such a terrific model.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

08/20/2003 11:13:13 AM · #14

Originally posted by tarique:

You liked the picture, others didn't or didn't like it as well. Perhaps your opinion is more valuable than others, so be it.

You brought a picture up in the forums that didn't score as well as you thought it should. People are telling you why they didn't score it as high as you thought they should. How in the world is that slamming????

I did not read that anyone is asking you to defend your 10. That is your perogative.

I liked the picture, but like Sonifo said, just because it was old didn't make it desolation, and he does lok sad, but that is about it. Having more context may have helped it, I don't know. It was a good picture, just didn't scream "desolation" to all of the voters.

Sonifo

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

08/20/2003 11:15:42 AM · #15

Originally posted by tarique:

Straighten up, young man or I will have to send you to the corner and you can throw your fit there. :-P

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

08/20/2003 11:19:30 AM · #16

Originally posted by tarique:

I'm sorry...I didn't mean anything that I said in a malicious way. I didn't intend on getting you upset, Tarique. I was just expressing my feelings. I didn't think I was slamming it.
I really do appreciate the high scores on my entry and I was okay with it's placing because I got lots of comments. I didn't expect it to do very well...it is one of those love/hate photos. I wish I could have gotten a real model, too.

EddyG

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

08/20/2003 11:23:14 AM · #17

There are definitly some great pictures in the Desolation challenge for sure.

But some of them do not say "desolation" to me. "Despair" perhaps, but not desolation. Desolation, to me, is more like these dictionary definitions:

1. the act of desolating or laying waste; destruction of inhabitants; depopulation
2. the state of being decayed or destroyed
3. a place or country wasted and forsaken
4. an event that results in total destruction

Compare and contrast to "despair":

1. to lose all hope
2. to be overcome by a sense of futility or defeat
3. a state in which everything seems wrong and will turn out badly

I put a lot of emphasis on meeting the challenge topic when voting. That being said, voters weren't voting along dictionary definitions... my Desolation entry placed much worse than I had hoped (including some 1's, 2's and 3's), even though I thought it fit the theme very well.

Message edited by author 2003-08-20 11:34:12.

08/20/2003 11:24:05 AM · #18

Originally posted by Sonifo:

Straighten up, young man or I will have to send you to the corner and you can throw your fit there. :-P

Hmm... You got a picture of yourself to go with that comment - would be interesting ;)

08/20/2003 11:31:30 AM · #19

Originally posted by patriciabrown2001:

I'm sorry...I didn't mean anything that I said in a malicious way. I didn't intend on getting you upset, Tarique.

Awww... Please no need to apologise.

I not crazy enough to get upset over someone elses picture - got too many real life things to be upset about :)

Message edited by author 2003-08-20 11:35:47.

08/20/2003 11:37:59 AM · #20

Originally posted by EddyG:

There are definitly some great pictures in the Desolation challenge for sure.

But some of them do not say "desolation" to me. "Despair" perhaps, but not desolation. Desolation, to me, is more like these dictionary definitions:

1. the act of desolating or laying waste; destruction of inhabitants; depopulation
2. the state of being decayed or destroyed
3. a place or country wasted and forsaken
4. an event that results in total destruction

Compare and contrast to "despair":

1. to lose all hope
2. to be overcome by a sense of futility or defeat
3. a state in which everything seems wrong and will turn out badly

I put a lot of emphasis on meeting the challenge topic when voting. That being said, my Desolation entry placed much worse than I had hoped (including some 1's, 2's and 3's), even though I thought it fit the theme very well.

I looked desolate up in the "Webster's New World College Dictionary" when I was trying to think of something for this challenge. You left out what is first in the meaning according to my dictionary.
1.left alone; lonely; solitary.
Since the primary definition refers to loneliness, I thought that the human condition best portrayed desolation.