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05/02/2006 03:14:04 AM · #1 |
I use a laptop computer for all of my work, including dpc. I was recently reading about monitor calibration and my photoshop software suggests that I not use the bundled calibration software if I use a laptop. It has been suggested to me that I buy a pc for photo purposes, and I may.
In the meantime something interesting occurred. I was at my office, showing my photo web site to a co-worker using a communal office PC and monitor. One of the pictures had a nearly black foreground on the office computer, whereas on my laptop the foreground is a medium green with plenty of detail. So the question occurred to me, "Is my monitor that far off, or is the office computer errant? So I ask you, using the same photo on my web site (the link is below), "What do you see in the foreground? Green or nearly black? Your answers may help me decide what to do. Thanks.
Link: //alohaphoto.my-expressions.com/archives/1472_1711322473/145928
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05/02/2006 03:17:30 AM · #2 |
the grass in the foreground??
Just.. as green as grass, I think :) |
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05/02/2006 03:19:08 AM · #3 |
| I run my laptop with an external monitor and your picture was significantly brighter on the external monitor - greens much more vivid, for example. I guess this is why I check all of my images on the laptop and the external beast - just in case! |
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05/02/2006 03:19:35 AM · #4 |
Green, green grass of (someone's) home
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05/02/2006 03:19:46 AM · #5 |
It looks a lovely shade of green to me!!
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05/02/2006 03:20:32 AM · #6 |
I see a slightly under-exposed foreground with a sky losing definition due to over-exposure only at the far right in the large cloud band.
My monitor is calibrated using Adobe's calibration software. A custom-generated monitor profile based on it. This isn't a comment supporting that method, just letting you know where my view is coming from. (Though the accuracy between screen and prints is right on so I can't complain) |
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05/02/2006 03:42:22 AM · #7 |
| I see green, but it's darker than should be IMO. I use a calibrated 24" Apple Cinema HD (LCD). |
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05/02/2006 03:43:37 AM · #8 |
I can see the greens very well.
and also some little pixies dancing around in the grasses ;) |
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05/02/2006 03:46:17 AM · #9 |
The grass is a zone 4 green, mostly. Dark but rich of color. The bushes are dropping down towards zone 3 except the highlights, so the bushes show here as pretty much black with definite green highlights. It's a greenish-black, though.
R.
Message edited by author 2006-05-02 03:46:42.
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05/02/2006 01:35:36 PM · #10 |
Thanks for all your help.
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05/02/2006 01:51:28 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by chalice:
I use a laptop computer for all of my work, including dpc. I was recently reading about monitor calibration and my photoshop software suggests that I not use the bundled calibration software if I use a laptop. It has been suggested to me that I buy a pc for photo purposes, and I may.
In the meantime something interesting occurred. I was at my office, showing my photo web site to a co-worker using a communal office PC and monitor. One of the pictures had a nearly black foreground on the office computer, whereas on my laptop the foreground is a medium green with plenty of detail. So the question occurred to me, "Is my monitor that far off, or is the office computer errant? So I ask you, using the same photo on my web site (the link is below), "What do you see in the foreground? Green or nearly black? Your answers may help me decide what to do. Thanks. |
There is un un-asked question in here that I'd like to address. The question is, "Do I need a new computer or do I only need to calibrate my monitor(s)."
Answer: It all depends. I do all my editing on a Dell Laptop that has been color calibrated. If the screen is at the wrong angle it WILL affect the colors I see. I do have an external mointor attached, but it is not calibrated, so the colors do differ a bit.
With the responses above I'd believe that the 'communal' PC could use calibration -- even if it were only Adobe's tool. For your laptop, I'd recommend calibration OR an external monitor with calibration. It's cheaper than a new PC unless you really NEED a new PC -- in which case you'll still need to calibrate the new monitor.
Moral: Try calibration first. If you need, find someone nearby to borrow a calibration unit from. |
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05/02/2006 02:27:09 PM · #12 |
| I see green. Nothing even close to nearly black. Well detailed. |
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05/02/2006 02:29:42 PM · #13 |
| The green is a bit dark on this work monitor. I will have to check on my flatscreen at home later. |
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05/02/2006 02:55:15 PM · #14 |
On mine the trees seem just dark green not to bad to me, but when I looked close to the center of the image there are 2 trees that look grey. Does anyone else see that?
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05/02/2006 03:07:31 PM · #15 |
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05/02/2006 03:08:57 PM · #16 |
Yup, that's green. I think Bear's zonal breakdown was pretty accurate.
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05/02/2006 03:28:57 PM · #17 |
| Yup - The foreground grass is green with a hint of oak. Gentle on the palate, goes down well with a buttery aftertaste. |
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05/02/2006 03:29:44 PM · #18 |
| It looks green to me, but if you are anything like me then you can definantly use this as an exceptable excuse to buy something new. everyone loves something new! |
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05/02/2006 04:01:58 PM · #19 |
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05/02/2006 04:02:37 PM · #20 |
Highly defined dark green.
I'm on an IBM Thinkpad T30. :/ |
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05/02/2006 04:06:41 PM · #21 |
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05/02/2006 04:18:22 PM · #22 |
| green, but it's a rather dark green |
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05/02/2006 04:40:52 PM · #23 |
This is useless feedback, but here goes...and then i'll change it.
I just hooked up my new monitor (crt) and am killing time for it to be warm and stable for calibrating.
In this state the forground is very dark, not black, but a good 2 stops too dark.
Off to calibrate and back in a jiffy...well...and we can both see what difference it makes.
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05/02/2006 05:04:19 PM · #24 |
| Green - grass green. I recently calibrated all my monitors - laptop and PCs with a Pantone Huey. |
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05/02/2006 05:08:15 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by chalice:
I use a laptop computer for all of my work, including dpc. I was recently reading about monitor calibration and my photoshop software suggests that I not use the bundled calibration software if I use a laptop. It has been suggested to me that I buy a pc for photo purposes, and I may.
In the meantime something interesting occurred. I was at my office, showing my photo web site to a co-worker using a communal office PC and monitor. One of the pictures had a nearly black foreground on the office computer, whereas on my laptop the foreground is a medium green with plenty of detail. So the question occurred to me, "Is my monitor that far off, or is the office computer errant? So I ask you, using the same photo on my web site (the link is below), "What do you see in the foreground? Green or nearly black? Your answers may help me decide what to do. Thanks.
Link: //alohaphoto.my-expressions.com/archives/1472_1711322473/145928 |
On my Spyder calibrated CRT the image looks to have a well fined darker green with detail in the trees. It looks OK. I'd agree with Bear_music. I agree with others that the "communal" PC is probably not properly calibrated.
However, laptop LCD screens are notorious for getting properly calibrated, even using good hardware tools with it. Look on several nachines before you decide the "real" issue.
Good luck.
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